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    Concrete, Wa

    I've been trying for a month to post a picture to here showing a park in Concrete that has the most blatant no guns sign I've seen. But this website won't upload it. So I'll post the conversation I had here, minus the picture.

    Hey Mayor!

    Is the park on N Superior Ave. (near main St) a publicly owned park?

    jfslicer
    Hello, jfslicer,

    Silo Park? That's a town park, so "publicly owned" wouldn't be quite the right way to characterize it. It is town property, open to the public from dawn to dusk every day.

    Helpful? Let me know if that answers your questions and if you have any follow-up question(s).

    jas


    Jason Miller, mayor, Town of Concrete
    Mayor Miller,

    The reason I ask is that I was visiting Silo park recently when I saw this sign:



    State law RCW 9.41.290 states: "Local laws and ordinances that are inconsistent with, more restrictive than, or exceed the requirements of state law shall not be enacted and are preempted and repealed, regardless of the nature of the code, charter, or home rule status of such city, town, county, or municipality." State law allows for open carry and concealed carry of firearms in public (RCW 9.41.050).

    As such, this sign makes law abiding citizens appear to be criminals to the uninformed. Would you be so kind as to remove this sign?

    Thanks for your time!
    I will certainly look into that!

    What's your last name, jfslicer? Are you a resident of Concrete?

    jason
    I appreciate that! This article may help you as you look into it: Seattle Gun Ban Ruled Illegal It sites, among other things, a court case that cause Seattle to have to change it gun laws in regards to parks.

    I am not a resident of Concrete, but I do live nearby and was enjoying your lovely town recently.

    jfslicer <Last Name>
    Very interesting. Thank you, jfslicer.
    I'd appreciate it if you keep me in the loop on any decisions you come to in regards to the sign. Thanks again!
    Certainly.
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    I brought that up to the town council in Lacey, and even before I went to the monthly meeting they agreed. They fixed it right away when the city attorney looked into it. They contacted the Lacey PD, and told them not to enforce the stuff on the signs till they were changed.
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    whats the size of the pic?

    Post a link to it ... using

    http://postimage.org/

    if too big

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    whats the size of the pic?

    Post a link to it ... using

    http://postimage.org/

    if too big
    That worked! Thanks!

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    Update:

    Quote Originally Posted by jfslicer
    Hey Mayor Miller,

    It's been 5 months since we last talked about this. Is there any update?
    Quote Originally Posted by Mayor Miller
    Ah, yes. Prioritized downward while building our Fire & Life Safety Facility. Will loop back on this.


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    Hello, jfslicer,

    Silo Park? That's a town park, so "publicly owned" wouldn't be quite the right way to characterize it. It is town property, open to the public from dawn to dusk every day.

    Helpful? Let me know if that answers your questions and if you have any follow-up question(s).

    jas
    Jason Miller, mayor, Town of Concrete
    S'cuze me, Mr. Mayor, but just WHAT do you define as "publicly owned?" I guess, in your mind, "town" property is "private."
    Better go attend the civics class in your local high school to refresh your memory.
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    Reminds me of that New England joke about the new neighbors property line - are you asking for owning? or for mowing?


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    SVG and I went through Concrete just this past sunday. It would have been a great time to visit the park, had we known.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSG Laigaie View Post
    SVG and I went through Concrete just this past sunday. It would have been a great time to visit the park, had we known.
    +1 We ate our lunch at the hatchery, the park would have been nice too.
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