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    One just has to love revolvers

    Last spring I picked up a nice S@W model 67 double action only. I didn't do any thing with it besides dry firing it until a couple of days ago. I found some 158gr SWCLHP bullets and thought to my self they would be perfect to load and shoot in the model 67.

    So I found a can of Unique powder in the reloading room looked up data for it and set the powder thrower to throw a charge 2/10s a gr under max.

    I then with the help of a 12 year old son of friend proceeded to show him how to reload straight walled pistol cartridges.

    From looking up the data setting up the dies and measure making sure the powder charge was ok. Explaining how powder and bullets are weighed in grains. Did some math with grains.

    We reloaded just over 100 of the rounds. During the time I explained double charges to him and showed him what one looked like I the reloading block.

    I had him deprime ,flare the brass and seat the bullets explaining the why of each step.

    We then finished reloading and then took the revolver out side to my established shooting sports range behind the garage.

    I grabbed a pizza box on it had the word oven about a half inch long and 1/8th high I then I stepped back to about 10 yards and shot. The rounds I fired cut a very nice ragged hole just a hair high and dead center of the aiming point. Just right for giving this gun 25 yard zero.

    I have found that just for plain shooting pleasure a good accurate mid size 38spl revolver is hard to beat.

    The young man also fired some rounds and he said I like revolvers.

    I wouldn't worry to much about carrying this combo as a defensive gun.
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    Revolvers are like old friends.....they are reliable and seldom let you down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Revolvers are like old friends.....they are reliable and seldom let you down
    I have always said if one can get the job done with a cylinder full they are fine choice.

    I carry one when the need fits and don't worry about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    I have always said if one can get the job done with a cylinder full they are fine choice.

    I carry one when the need fits and don't worry about it.
    And if you can't, all but the most compact of wheel guns are usually heavy enough to make a pretty good bludgeon.

    I love my revolver, and do have plans to get a few more. That being said, those who discount the effectiveness of revolvers have probably never entertained the thought of having one pointed at them. I imagine their reaction would be about the same as with a SA. Say the same about .22lr as well, regardless of whether or not it's a smart idea to carry one for self defense. I know if it were me on the wrong end of that barrel, my knickers would be just as browned no matter what the caliber was.

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    .....^ ^ Brown knickers is a colorful thought ^ ^ and very appro poo
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    In my stable about 50% of my hand guns are double action revolvers(only one single action 22 ruger)I had two super black hawks. But sold them and replace them with Redhawks.

    I wouldn't hesitate to buy another single action for the right price on the open market one can always make money if the price is right.

    Open free market firearms are always good to pick up only if it is for resale as a couple sales really reduce the chances of confiscation if it would ever come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    In my stable about 50% of my hand guns are double action revolvers(only one single action 22 ruger)I had two super black hawks. But sold them and replace them with Redhawks.

    I wouldn't hesitate to buy another single action for the right price on the open market one can always make money if the price is right.

    Open free market firearms are always good to pick up only if it is for resale as a couple sales really reduce the chances of confiscation if it would ever come.
    It that's the only list you are on you have been doing it wrong.

    "Red Dawn" worked because it was a very small town.

    Go to LGS #1 and ask them if they store chronologically or alphabetically. Then check LGS #2 & #3 to see if they do it the same way. Even with nothing more sophisticated than a computer spreadsheet it's more effort than the government is going to want to go through when there are easier-to-access public and private records.

    But what is really going to make the government go about confiscation by means other than cross-checking 4473s is the sheer scale of the operation coupled with the fact that in most places it is legal to do private sales, thus breaking any chain they might be following. (And yes, my telescopically enhanced long-distance sniper rifle (.270 bolt action with a 4x Tasco scope) really did fall overboard while I was duck hunting - I brought it to show that it is in fact possible to shoot down a jetliner that is spreading chem trails in the stratosphere while standing in a jon boat with 2-foot waves in the swamp. "That's my stopry and I'm sticking to it!")

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    I am on so many lists one more well not matter.

    As I said free market guns that to me means those not brought through a dealer.

    Or if one just wants to do pre 68 non serial numbered guns private sales.

    Private sale Free market guns are just one of the safety valves we have against confiscation.


    Any body who ever brought a gun from a dealer had a hunting lic. subscribed to a hunting shooting magazine, visits internet gun sites brought ammo cleaning supplies or other gun stuff with a credit card are on the list belonged to a gun rights organization. Former military LEOs CCW holders Or knows people who would turn them in for the reward are endanger if it ever comes down to it.

    Is ones ex still pissed at them. Dropping the dime on some is easy.

    But then preempted strikes work well all so. Really messes with the system.

    Then even if they think you might own one or have owned you are endanger.

    Telling them You lost them in the swamp well just get you and your family shot or thrown into the camp.

    One just needs to study how they confiscated guns in the good old Soviet Union. Or how the Nazi's did it.

    But if it comes down to that things are going to be or get really bad.


    A Tasco 4x gees better then nothing I guess.
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    Took the model 67 out to 25 yards today fired a nice 1.5 wide by 3 inches tall group from a standing weaver position.

    Dead on for elevation 1.5 inches to the left adjusted the sights 1 inch higher and 1.5 inches to the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    Took the model 67 out to 25 yards today fired a nice 1.5 wide by 3 inches tall group from a standing weaver position.

    Dead on for elevation 1.5 inches to the left adjusted the sights 1 inch higher and 1.5 inches to the right.
    Did you fire the other 3 rounds to confirm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Did you fire the other 3 rounds to confirm?
    Yes fired a whole cly full 3 shots then the next 3 shots and right after the first 3 didn't even wait. confirmed it nicely if it was a nine shot I would have fired them to.

    I didn't think it was that horrible of a group it being a double action only gun. I mean standing two handed only 13 degrees out and some wind thought it might be a bit tighter.

    But who I am I to say that it wasn't a bad group considering the weather and every thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    Last spring I picked up a nice S@W model 67 double action only. I didn't do any thing with it besides dry firing it until a couple of days ago. I found some 158gr SWCLHP bullets and thought to my self they would be perfect to load and shoot in the model 67.

    So I found a can of Unique powder in the reloading room looked up data for it and set the powder thrower to throw a charge 2/10s a gr under max.

    I then with the help of a 12 year old son of friend proceeded to show him how to reload straight walled pistol cartridges.

    From looking up the data setting up the dies and measure making sure the powder charge was ok. Explaining how powder and bullets are weighed in grains. Did some math with grains.

    We reloaded just over 100 of the rounds. During the time I explained double charges to him and showed him what one looked like I the reloading block.

    I had him deprime ,flare the brass and seat the bullets explaining the why of each step.

    We then finished reloading and then took the revolver out side to my established shooting sports range behind the garage.

    I grabbed a pizza box on it had the word oven about a half inch long and 1/8th high I then I stepped back to about 10 yards and shot. The rounds I fired cut a very nice ragged hole just a hair high and dead center of the aiming point. Just right for giving this gun 25 yard zero.

    I have found that just for plain shooting pleasure a good accurate mid size 38spl revolver is hard to beat.

    The young man also fired some rounds and he said I like revolvers.

    I wouldn't worry to much about carrying this combo as a defensive gun.
    Ok I have to give credit where Credit is due. There is probably not a more versatile round on the market then a .357 and I would more so prefer that then any semi auto round on the market. The .357 is time proven with a track record like no other. Penatration along side of knockdown it has got to be the Apex of bullets in my opinion.

    The revolver has proven to be the most versatile handgun type on the market as a well made one will be so reliable it can actually be dangerous as squibloads and hangfires dont interefere with operation as a semi auto does in most cases and a simple pull of the trigger fires the next round.

    The sad thing is I am on the force where transition became a reality. Having first carried a smith and wesson model 681 we soon afterwords were required to master the art of both semi autos and revolvers. These days have again since changed again where you can either certify with one or the other and if you chose both you have to take the course completely over with the other type.

    Now since they implimented the latter most people opt not to pay an additional 450 dollars to certify with a revolver as most realize they will never carry it for duty (Though there are many who do) and thus for the purpose of duty the revolver is almost all but faded in to the history books. Since the military (to my knowledge only as a disclaimer here) no longer deals with revolvers and most of the younger generation is getting in to semi auto handguns the revolver is an alienated form that surpises me many young people look at it as if you handed them the keys to a jumbo jet and said take it for a spin.

    The revolver is still a unique firearm and one that is permantly etched in my heart as the first gun I ever shot but alas they are fading off (At least on the mens side) as fast as we are getting old. I just hope we never lose sight of the handgun the revolutionized handguns
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    Only handguns are revolvers

    I carry a S&W Model 686 as a duty revolver. I carry a S&W Model 37 as backup. I carry a S&W Model 13/Model 10/Model 37 alone or in various combinations off duty. My wife's gun is a S&W Model 681. My older daughter "borrowed" a Taurus 85SSUL from me. I also have a small collection of single actions and antiques that don't get out much.

    If I was going to "go to war" with a handgun, I'd probably have a Springfield XD9 Tactical. Just as soon as I get all the revolvers on my list, I might get one of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    But what is really going to make the government go about confiscation by means other than cross-checking 4473s is the sheer scale of the operation coupled with the fact that in most places it is legal to do private sales, thus breaking any chain they might be following.
    I don't agree. If confiscations ever start (doubtful), all they have to do is bust down the doors of the gun owners, and that they already know via NICS. They have no need to know where each particular gun is. What really deters them, is that they don't want to get shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulB View Post
    I don't agree. If confiscations ever start (doubtful), all they have to do is bust down the doors of the gun owners, and that they already know via NICS. They have no need to know where each particular gun is. What really deters them, is that they don't want to get shot.
    When has that ever stopped a government from initiating such action?
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    I like revolvers. They are neat the way they operate and fun to shoot. I agree the 38spl is a great round. One reason I enjoy it is I don't get hand fatigue no matter how many rounds I fire. Buuut for EDC its 45acp.
    Kinda decided to stop worrying about them knowing about who owns the guns. If it's ever to the point of having to hide them it's time to use them IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    I like revolvers. They are neat the way they operate and fun to shoot. I agree the 38spl is a great round. One reason I enjoy it is I don't get hand fatigue no matter how many rounds I fire. Buuut for EDC its 45acp.
    Kinda decided to stop worrying about them knowing about who owns the guns. If it's ever to the point of having to hide them it's time to use them IMO.
    Besides 22rf I find 38spl mid range wadcutters one of the nicest rounds to shoot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    When has that ever stopped a government from initiating such action?
    Exactly, don't keep all your eggs (guns) in one basket. I have buried caches in several western states for it can't be confiscated (stolen) by the government, if they can't find it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Freedom View Post
    Exactly, don't keep all your eggs (guns) in one basket. I have buried caches in several western states for it can't be confiscated (stolen) by the government, if they can't find it.
    Someone (named Claire Wolfe - Google her article about it) once wrote that if it's time to start burying them it is time to start digging them up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Someone (named Claire Wolfe - Google her article about it) once wrote that if it's time to start burying them it is time to start digging them up.

    stay safe.
    It is good not to have all your eggs in one basket. But I agree with the above statement
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    We all agree that revolvers are good. And that some of us love them.

    But just how much do you love them?

    http://solloshi.com/en/cigar-accesso...m-edition.html

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    Well,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    We all agree that revolvers are good. And that some of us love them.

    But just how much do you love them?

    http://solloshi.com/en/cigar-accesso...m-edition.html

    stay safe.
    Sure dont love them that much....

    But I have a S&W 500,, Ive shot this, but not these others..
    A S&w 44 mag, dirty harry
    A Taurus 4" 357
    Two 22LR cowboy pistols,,, 1 with a Safety!
    A 44 cal 1858 buffalo hunter,, NIB.

    But they are all cool!
    I need to go out and exercise a bunch of my guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    We all agree that revolvers are good. And that some of us love them.

    But just how much do you love them?

    http://solloshi.com/en/cigar-accesso...m-edition.html

    stay safe.
    At least it is free shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Someone (named Claire Wolfe - Google her article about it) once wrote that if it's time to start burying them it is time to start digging them up.

    stay safe.
    A very good article and reading of Jack's adventures in trying to find his buried guns was great.

    I have buried a Glock 17, 4 magazines, ammo, matches, buck knife, life straw, compass, and etc. at each of my staches so no matter where I roam in the west, I have a survival supply nearby. For example, as the article suggest, I have used Stonehenge (the one in Columbia gorge) for my fixed marker at one of my Washington stashes, which will make it easy to find if needed.

    I chose the Glock 17 for being almost rust proof in extreme conditions, using very common 9mm ammo, and the fact that when you pull the trigger it goes bang.

    My first Glock 17 I purchased was in 93, a gen 2, and it still goes bang even after 25,000 plus rounds without a failure

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    At least it is free shipping.
    At that price I will take two, what a bargain.

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