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    Man kills 2 cops in apparent retaliation for police killings NYC

    http://thefreethoughtproject.com/2-nypd-cops-killed/

    "According to the New York Post, the officers were working overtime as part of a anti-terrorism drill when they were approached by a single gunman who shot the officers at point blank range on the corner of Myrtle and Tompkins avenues."

    This is a real tragedy and will not help the problem of police killings I believe.
    I fear this may become more frequent. The oppressive boot on the the neck will eventually cause people to snap.
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    Saw several news postings .. seems like they were looking into a social media page posting of the guy.

    Be interested in learning more....but may never know what made the guy go to these measures.

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    Anyone know if the guy had a pernit for his pistol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    Was the shooter OCing when he shot the policemen? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    Anyone know if the guy had a pernit for his pistol?
    he had an arrest in Georgia for conceal carry without a permit. So probably not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    he had an arrest in Georgia for conceal carry without a permit. So probably not.
    Didn't think so, which begs the question:

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    Was the shooter OCing when he shot the policemen? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    The truth causes some people so much pain they can only respond with impotent laughable insults. Life must be rough for those people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    Anyone know if the guy had a pernit for his pistol?
    Lol
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    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Murderers like this have no better role models than the state and the police themselves. One police officer manslaughters a businessman and so this guy goes and murders two relatively innocent cops. What sick logic. In like manner, the police regularly enforce mala prohibita on innocent people because other persons at one time may have abused their liberties. What sick logic.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    We are entering vicious circle territory.

    Cops will now be in even more FEAR for the "safety" than ever before. They will kill citizens with even less provocation, and they will be deemed "justified" by the System.


    Over a thousand citizens have been killed by police in 2014, next year will probably be twice that.

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    This is insanity. If an LEO threatens the life of a citizen for no good reason, deal with it then and there. Don't use gangster style retribution tactics. I'm not friend of the police as a general rule but even I know they arent all bad. Kinda dumb to say the police behave like the mafia then act like it in an execution. I hope the perps are caught and I hope they are convicted and given the death penalty. Sorry, there is no other fitting punishment for such evil
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    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinglibertarian View Post
    This is insanity. If an LEO threatens the life of a citizen for no good reason, deal with it then and there. Don't use gangster style retribution tactics. I'm not friend of the police as a general rule but even I know they arent all bad. Kinda dumb to say the police behave like the mafia then act like it in an execution. I hope the perps are caught and I hope they are convicted and given the death penalty. Sorry, there is no other fitting punishment for such evil
    The perp killed himself. But there is no need for violence, but if history is correct there will be violence where there is oppression. The people should stop condoning state violence, because when they do they are inciting violence against the state. Some people look for an excuse to kill, and they probably will find an excuse, but there is no reason to provide it to them.
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    And we all have to remember, its NYC .. full of wackos.

    I don't cry for NYC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    The perp killed himself. But there is no need for violence, but if history is correct there will be violence where there is oppression. The people should stop condoning state violence, because when they do they are inciting violence against the state. Some people look for an excuse to kill, and they probably will find an excuse, but there is no reason to provide it to them.
    I had forgotten that. You're right there will be violence where there is oppression but it must be proportional. Do I support the idea you can and should shoot a cop if there is an immediate and real threat to your life and property? Yes I do, but you can't just see a cop and shoot him because a cop somewhere committed a crime. I also want to make it clear I do know you're not advocating wanton disregard for the lives of police, i'm just being very clear about my position.

    I think there is a right way and a wrong way to be Militia and these shootings are no better than the police murdering citizens. It's 100% wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rightwinglibertarian View Post
    I had forgotten that. You're right there will be violence where there is oppression but it must be proportional. Do I support the idea you can and should shoot a cop if there is an immediate and real threat to your life and property? Yes I do, but you can't just see a cop and shoot him because a cop somewhere committed a crime. I also want to make it clear I do know you're not advocating wanton disregard for the lives of police, i'm just being very clear about my position.

    I think there is a right way and a wrong way to be Militia and these shootings are no better than the police murdering citizens. It's 100% wrong.
    I do not condone it either, no more than I condoned the terrorist acts of Nelson Mandela. But we see how that turned out, he eventually became a world hero and he was nothing more than a murderer with a cause.

    If this country keeps on the path it is going we will sooner or later have a Nelson Mandela.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    The perp killed himself. But there is no need for violence, but if history is correct there will be violence where there is oppression. The people should stop condoning state violence, because when they do they are inciting violence against the state. Some people look for an excuse to kill, and they probably will find an excuse, but there is no reason to provide it to them.
    +1 And the only power the state has is violence.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    +1 And the only power the state has is violence.
    ... And only violence against the people that constitute the state.
    I am responsible for my writing, not your understanding of it.

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    Law Enforcement Motivation: http://youtu.be/2zyhOW-8Zcc

    That's all I'm saying in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Law Enforcement Motivation: http://youtu.be/2zyhOW-8Zcc

    That's all I'm saying in this thread.
    Only a pathetic soul thinks that two wrongs make a right.
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    Man kills 2 cops in apparent retaliation for police killings NYC

    Quote Originally Posted by Primus View Post
    Law Enforcement Motivation: http://youtu.be/2zyhOW-8Zcc

    That's all I'm saying in this thread.
    Nice that the video wraps up talking about "the sheep" do not want the "dog" around, because it reminds them too much of the "wolf". I am no ones sheep nor do I need them. I take full responsibility for my own safety. I don't rely on a dog for anything, short of crapping in my yard and causing commotions, if I see a wolf that is threatening human life...it's a bad day in wolf land.

    That's all I'm saying in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by walkingwolf View Post
    only a pathetic soul thinks that two wrongs make a right.
    amen!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Nice that the video wraps up talking about "the sheep" do not want the "dog" around, because it reminds them too much of the "wolf". I am no ones sheep nor do I need them. I take full responsibility for my own safety. I don't rely on a dog for anything, short of crapping in my yard and causing commotions, if I see a wolf that is threatening human life...it's a bad day in wolf land.

    That's all I'm saying in this thread.
    Sheep dogs do not occasionally eat the sheep, p*** poor analogy. Some people think violence, pain, and mayhem are more acceptable coming from government, as long as they are not on the receiving end.
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    "Protestors did not kill the two slain officers. Politicians, grand juries, or police unions did not murder them either. Ismaaiyl Brinsley killed the two police men and he alone is the one with blood on his hands."

    http://theantimedia.org/deaths-of-two-nypd-cops/
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator
    So in actuality you have no evidence that anything wrong took place, you only believe that it could be spun to appear wrong. But it hasn't been. The truth has a funny way of coming out with persistence, even if it was spun negatively the truth would find its way because these people will not accept less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    "Protestors did not kill the two slain officers. Politicians, grand juries, or police unions did not murder them either. Ismaaiyl Brinsley killed the two police men and he alone is the one with blood on his hands."

    http://theantimedia.org/deaths-of-two-nypd-cops/
    Moot point now, but this tragic event will be used by the "system" to potentially erode individual liberty further. The system will play on the sympathies of the citizenry, to please understand and endure the obvious excesses, in the name of justice and safety, of state agents when they occur.

    Remember the Boston Constitution Suspension Event. Some citizens are more compliant than others. It is NYC though, so, not much different than Boston in this regard.
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    Well it appears a "sheep" was previously unnecessarily bitten by the sheep dogs, and decided no more. He couldn't blame the drug dog as it did it's job properly and showed no interest in his bag.


    Video Taken by NYPD Killer Surfaces, Shows Him Being Shaken Down by K-9 Unit Last Year

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    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d35_1419127560
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