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    Boom: anti-Tannerite bill?

    Smells ... iffy:

    HB 1426 Explosive materials; use near dwelling house prohibited, penalty.
    Daniel W. Marshall, III (by request)
    Use of explosive material near dwelling house; penalty. Provides that any person who intentionally detonates an explosive material by means of a firearm within one mile of a dwelling house is guilty of a Class 3 misdemeanor.
    Within ONE mile. By request.

    Oh dear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    Smells ... iffy:

    HB 1426 Explosive materials; use near dwelling house prohibited, penalty.
    Daniel W. Marshall, III (by request)


    Within ONE mile. By request.

    Oh dear.
    Figures it would be him.....Ware's buddy.

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    buy the house next to his .. hey, its only a class 3 misdemeanor, whats that? 20 dollar fine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    buy the house next to his .. hey, its only a class 3 misdemeanor, whats that? 20 dollar fine?
    That's fine in Danville...In Hanover it may be a felony!

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    That's fine in Danville...In Hanover it may be a felony!
    Or do it before the bill goes to committee and watch the guy cry and cry in the committee ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Or do it before the bill goes to committee and watch the guy cry and cry in the committee ...
    He isn't going to cry...he shifts gears...he voted against SH last year then when he knew he was going to lose, tried to amend it to conform to the North Carolina model.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    He'd be crying with constant booms happening at his house lol

    I have an old fax machine that I use to call guys like this...ring ring ...bzzzz zap tick tick tick ... (no fax response)..hang up. Redial....bzzz zap tick tick tick (no fax response)..Redial .... infinity
    Gee, David. Maybe you ought to read http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+18.2-429

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Harassment of elected officials, or anyone for that matter, is not the means recommended or condoned by OCDO or VCDL and there may be potential legal repercussions for such conduct.

    We prefer to take the high road and deal responsibly with facts not emotional outbursts.
    You cannot see that it was joking?

    I think so as the posting(s) are still there.

    Overmoderation is not moderation at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Harassment of elected officials, or anyone for that matter, is not the means recommended or condoned by OCDO or VCDL and there may be potential legal repercussions for such conduct.

    We prefer to take the high road and deal responsibly with facts not emotional outbursts.
    Still kinda funny/satisfying
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    You cannot see that it was joking?

    I think so as the posting(s) are still there.

    Overmoderation is not moderation at all.
    Lacking any indication of being a joke, neither I nor the public reading this forum would have any reason but to believe that you were making a true statement.

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    Returning to the OP intent of this thread - to discuss the anti-Tannerite bill.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    Still kinda funny/satisfying
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    1mile is a pretty good distance. Would shut tannerite down on my backyard range and most public ranges i go to. I notice also it does not contain the exemption of "unless written permision of occupant is obtained" that is on most of the hunting/discharge regulations i see. So even if the only dwelling within 1 mile is my own i cant grant myself permission huh?

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    This bill is really not about tannerite. It's one more part of the camel in the tent - "You can keep and bear arms all you want. But we're going to make sure you cannot do anything with them beyond that."

    If it were about the noise created by tannerite the bill would be focused on amending the law on disturbing the peace. But see http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+15.2-917 - there's no license/permit required to be designated a sport shooting range.

    See Paragraph #1 above.

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    uh-oh

    Darn tannerite bbq events !!


    So this is just a proposal by Marshall?

    Explained what this takes to get passed into law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Returning to the OP intent of this thread - to discuss the anti-Tannerite bill.
    The real question is: Who requested this?

    Anyone here a constituent? Perhaps you could ask his L.A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post

    We prefer to take the high road and deal responsibly with facts not emotional outbursts.
    Should go w/o saying.

    But thanks for saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaGunTrader View Post
    uh-oh

    Darn tannerite bbq events !!


    So this is just a proposal by Marshall?

    Explained what this takes to get passed into law?
    Really?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyeJ55o3El0

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    come on now Skid, according to that video Obama has to approve or veto it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaGunTrader View Post
    come on now Skid, according to that video Obama has to approve or veto it.
    What I haven't figured out is why a delegate from Danville is pushing this instead of Chesterfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    What I haven't figured out is why a delegate from Danville is pushing this instead of Chesterfield.
    Someone in Danville must be having too much fun.

    I think a mile is too much. Thats really going to limit who can shoot tannerite. Even at the 300 acre farm we use there are still houses well within a mile.

    The landowner and I agreed that we will limit what is exploded on the farm to two (2) pounds. We can have plenty of fun with two pounds and not disturb the neighbors a half mile away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VaGunTrader View Post
    come on now Skid, according to that video Obama has to approve or veto it.
    Adjust a little. It's the same basic process in the Commonwealth. Just switch out Obama and switch in the Governor.

    And what makes you think te Governor will not sign it if it makes it to his desk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Adjust a little. It's the same basic process in the Commonwealth. Just switch out Obama and switch in the Governor.

    And what makes you think te Governor will not sign it if it makes it to his desk?

    stay safe.
    Oh, I'd bet my bottom dollar he would sign it

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    I don't mean to rain on the parade, here, but here's my response to a recent inquiry I got about whether or not Tannerite is street-legal:

    That AG opinion is just a review of the applicability of a single statute and doesn't say that tannerite is legal. Tannerite is within the definition of "fireworks" under the State Fire Prevention Code, and it is not within the definition of "permissible fireworks" which can be used on a person's own property unless prohibited by a local ordinance. If it goes up into the air or goes bang, it is prohibited, and possession or use is a class-one misdemeanor.

    My opinion is that unlicensed possession of it is a federal felony under 18 U.S.C. 842 good for ten years at Talladega at federal expense (and I don't mean watching stock-car races). Local police won't enforce that unless there's some other reason; but see: http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/20...mb-making.html

    It is possible to obtain an exemption or a permit, though. See the Code of
    Federal Regulations, Title 27, Chapter II, Subchapter C, Part 555. The CFR
    is at:

    http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/ECFR?page=browse.
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