Iraqveteran8888 bashes "open carry ********" in recent "Gun Gripes" episode

I didn't think the follow up was too bad, personally.

stealthyeliminator said:

I didn't think the follow up was too bad, personally.

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They acknowledge that OC in group protests is OK, but still stick to the insults for individuals OCing individually. Personally after watching them later in the video I believe they were just trying to poorly do damage control.

When is a person more likely to be a victim of crime? In a group? Or individually?

What gets me is that these guys have built a VERY popular YouTube channel which has grown beyond just a couple of guys giving advise at a gun counter. They host events where other YouTube gun guys come out and meet with industry to test guns and gear that are about to hit the shelves or is being developed. The have lots of connection in the "gun media". They are not insulated from what is happening in the rest of the country with regards to Open Carry or any other gun related news.
With the attention that Open Carry has been getting in the past decade, especially the work being done by groups like Hells' Saints and Open Carry Texas, you would almost have to actively avoid any sort of gun publication or media to not know what is going on. I honestly can't accept that they were unaware of the reasons for long gun carry demonstrations taking place around the US. This leads me to think that they are either-
A- Completely clueless as they claim to be about 2A matters outside of their particular State
or
B- They are lying and trying to crawfish their way out of some bad statements.
I've never been a subscriber of their channel and am not a fan of theirs on YouTube. Frankly, from watching those two videos I have zero respect for anything they say. Their credability is nonexistant and I see little reason to consider them anything other than a pair of Fudds. They are not worth my time.

If you're not very talented at something, perhaps hard work can make up the difference. It appears to me that these guys open their mouths with the minimum of preperation. I couldn't watch either video very long. That's my "speaking gripe".

georg jetson said:

If you're not very talented at something, perhaps hard work can make up the difference. It appears to me that these guys open their mouths with the minimum of preperation. I couldn't watch either video very long. That's my "speaking gripe".

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Pretty much. It seems that today all you need is a decent camera and a youtube account and suddenly folks will take you seriously as an "authority" on whatever topic you want. If I cared, I'd make some "authoritative" videos about how underhanded and tactically unsound CC is.

Youtube is the lowest common denominator for public discourse.

WalkingWolf said:

They acknowledge that OC in group protests is OK, but still stick to the insults for individuals OCing individually. Personally after watching them later in the video I believe they were just trying to poorly do damage control.

When is a person more likely to be a victim of crime? In a group? Or individually?

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Can't argue with you there.. That is true.

marshaul said:

Pretty much. It seems that today all you need is a decent camera and a youtube account and suddenly folks will take you seriously as an "authority" on whatever topic you want. If I cared, I'd make some "authoritative" videos about how underhanded and tactically unsound CC is.

Youtube is the lowest common denominator for public discourse.

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Haven't thought of it that way before, but I think you're right too.

Iraqveteran8888 and Tom Gresham appear to be cut from the same cloth.

Say they are "for it", yet continually criticize those who exercise it.

They support the "collective" but NOT the individual! Once again so called "conservatives"/Libertarians openly embracing a Communist/Socialist/STATIST mindset.

As WW said, VERY poor damage control.

In my experience, when self-proclaimed know it alls gain a following in the public eye, they're usually beyond hope.

I see these two OC-ignorants are well are their way towards fulfilling their own prophecy.