Lafayette
Regular Member
Hey guys, if you are a parishioner at a place of worship and you are open carrying, can they ask you to leave?
My thought is, if you ask they are going to say no. If you walk in OC your first time, that might go over less well than if they knew you maybe? Shouldn't, but probably would.
I can appreciate where you are coming from and agree that in most cases this is the best route to take. However, I'm talking about going into a mosque, with a firearm, where I'm not known, right after terrorist attacks in Paris that have led to further attacks on mosques etc whilst I'm living in what is more rural Virginia than it is a city area, where most congregants will be of Iraqi Kurdish descent, already scarred from Saddam's regime and many of whom are refugees.
It makes more sense in this case to take their sensibilities into consideration and work a smooth way around it, rather than scare them and scar them emotionally.
I open carry a my church during deer season I wear a suit and tie and the other Sundays of the year so it concealed. I know the pastor carries concealed under is suit coat. More a matter of dress then other wise.
I can appreciate where you are coming from and agree that in most cases this is the best route to take. However, I'm talking about going into a mosque, with a firearm, where I'm not known, right after terrorist attacks in Paris that have led to further attacks on mosques etc whilst I'm living in what is more rural Virginia than it is a city area, where most congregants will be of Iraqi Kurdish descent, already scarred from Saddam's regime and many of whom are refugees.
It makes more sense in this case to take their sensibilities into consideration and work a smooth way around it, rather than scare them and scar them emotionally.
Recruited for what?If I were to offer an opinion it would be either you get shot on sight at the doorway, or you get recruited. But, since I'm not, I have no ideas. Let us know how it goes.
I am a Muslim.Is going into a mosque normal activity for you? If not, why would you be doing so now? If it is to defend one as a non-Muslim, you can do that from outside. If state laws allow guns in religious facilities, then it would be up to the mosque council.
I don't even think I'd comment on it to them, if they assumed it then so be it. I will make sure I don't imply that I am security for the mosque.I also have heard the security thing, I'm heading to you if something happens, I feel safer when your around, etc. I try to tactfully comment that I'm responsible for my own and my families' safety. I do consider my church to be my family, so there is maybe some grey area there I suppose? I hope it never comes to that, but I don't think you want to try and steal the offering in our church. I was talking to another guy last Sunday about exactly that, at the first shot it's going to be mass confusion I suspect.
No problems!I find this topic of a lot of interest and look forward to seeing where it is going! Thanks for asking the question.
Well, there are Amish and there are Amish, from plain folk to Old Order.
I used to ride 'bicycle' (Vanguard LWB HPV by Greg Peeks' Longbikes) among the Pennsilfaanisch Deitsch in South Central Pennsylvania where I always felt welcome in public places and where I would not intrude on anyone's privacy. The Amishmen leased land from my 'English' host.
I enjoyed their inspired considerations for their beliefs, the telephone booths across the street from the home, the team of four pulling a gasoline powered mower, the push rod from an English neighbor to power the well pump.
I agree with you there. In this case however I'm dealing with many people who were not born here and don't fully understand the principle of the right to free speech let alone the right to keep and bear arms. In all likelihood they've had to deal with secret police and are fearful of people exercising their rights because doing so back in their home countries was generally accompanied with torture, detentions, exile and summary executions.I was really just trying to give the two extremes that I could come up with off the top of my head. I really know nothing about a mosque. In the Christian faith churches, I suspect you would have both extremes as well, maybe not shot but asked to leave from some. Maybe fewer where you were welcomed with open arms.
LOL My first wife, my sailor's dream was Mormon from Pocatello, Idaho.
Speaking as a Mormon who grew up mostly outside Utah, I firmly believe that everyone has beliefs that you could call "odd", especially Utah Mormons.I enjoy talking to people about their beliefs. Some seem kind of strange, but I can see how if you grew up in Utah as a Mormon you would think my beliefs odd as well.
Growing up, I saw many people ask my dad how many wives he had, after they found out that we were Mormons. His usual answer was either "enough", "all I can handle", or "one too many".First wife as in one at a time, or first wife in a polygynous marriage?
Might be better to ask who initiated the action to disolve the union - not I, says me.First wife as in one at a time, or first wife in a polygynous marriage?
Might be better to ask who initiated the action to disolve the union - not I, says me.
Then there is this guy:
[strike]Fighting[/strike] Poppa Joe Morrissey lessens (he thinks) his problem(s) by not marrying them - no religious or state endorsement.
"The 17-year-old receptionist? The one he recruited from a foot-and-ankle office to come work in his firm? She’s 18 and pregnant. A prosecutor said Morrissey is “perhaps” the father. The bachelor already has three other kids by three different women."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...605692-9752-11e4-8005-1924ede3e54a_story.html