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    Exclamation Alert!!!

    HB 176 May, Karla: Requires a three-day waiting period for delivery of a firearm after purchase at retail and a purchaser of a firearm at retail to view a video on gun violence prior to the purchase.
    HB 347 Newman, Stacey: Requires that all sales or transfers of firearms be processed through a licensed firearms dealer.
    HB 373 McGaugh, Joe Don: Allows certain persons who have lost the right to possess firearms to have their rights restored under certain circumstances.
    http://www.house.mo.gov/BillListPrn.aspx?year=2015

    SB 23 - Chappelle-Nadal - Creates the crimes of failing to stop illegal firearm possession, negligent storage of a firearm, and failure to notify a school of firearm ownership.
    SB 60 - Chappelle-Nadal - Creates the crimes of failing to stop illegal weapon possession, negligent storage of a weapon, and failure to notify a school of weapon ownership.
    http://www.senate.mo.gov/15info/BTS_...?SessionType=R

    And this POS! Page 3 and 4 that desires to change RSMo 571.

    HB 418 Representative Stacey Newman, District 087, Democrat: Changes the laws regarding domestic violence. http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...ro/HB0418I.PDF

    Call your House rep and senator. This bill needs to stop right here.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    and i was wondering what to do this rainy day. many of these don't have a chance in hell, but my reps haven't heard from me yet this year. thanks for the info.

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    571.095. Confiscation of firearms and ammunition, when--exceptions.

    Upon conviction for or attempting to commit a felony in violation of any law perpetrated in whole or in part by the use of a firearm, the court may, in addition to the penalty provided by law for such offense, order the confiscation and disposal or sale or trade to a licensed firearms dealer of firearms and ammunition used in the commission of the crime or found in the possession or under the immediate control of the defendant at the time of his or her arrest....

    http://moga.mo.gov/mostatutes/stathtml/57100000951.html
    The mere presence of a firearm meets the requirement to confiscate under 571.515. But, this is contrary to 571.095.

    RSMo 565.076 is a Class A misdemeanor if the first offense, but only if convicted. It takes two more convictions to make 565.076 a Class E misdemeanor. Cops will err on the side of caution and apply this law, 571.515, across the board to CYA.

    571.520 desires to make 565.076 grounds to forfeit your gun rights.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    HB 347 is our version of WA I597. Stop this bill!

    http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...ro/HB0347I.PDF
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    HB 373 sounds good but the devil is in the details.

    http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking...ro/HB0373I.PDF

    STOP THIS BILL!!

    Stacy Newman is no friend of liberty.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Sb76...stop this bill!!!

    SB3...stop this bill!!!
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Red face Hb 176

    Regarding HB 176

    "BC" comic today:

    http://www.gocomics.com/bc

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    can somebody tell me if i should write to congressional / senatorial district addresses, or at the capitol? or maybe write both?

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    Ah. the legislative session begins ... go get 'em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Griz View Post
    can somebody tell me if i should write to congressional / senatorial district addresses, or at the capitol? or maybe write both?
    Both, and call them (locations) too, both. Get the name of the chief of staff. I found that both locations have folks "working" there. It is crucial that your rep understand that these are extremely important issues to you and that you do indeed discuss these issues with your neighbors and those in the district. If they think the word will get around that he/she will negatively impact our liberties they tend to take notice.

    Be polite yet persistent. Give them time to look into the matter and then contact you. I wait about two weeks then start getting a wee bit more bothersome. If you are getting blown-off then put that word out their too.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Missouri gun-tax plan to pay for police body cameras: This is ‘unmerited’

    ... gun rights groups have hit back hard at one Missouri lawmaker’s plan to add a tax on guns sold in the state to pay for cameras for police officers. Brandon Ellington, a Democratic lawmaker representing the Kansas City region, introduced separate bills that would require all uniformed police officers to wear body cameras and maintain recordings for 30 days, and would establish a tax on firearm sales to pay for the new mandate,
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    The Associated Press, meanwhile, said Mr. Ellington’s measure is one of three dozen other bills that were recently filed on the heels of the St. Louis-area unrest.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...y-for-police-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    ... gun rights groups have hit back hard at one Missouri lawmaker’s plan to add a tax on guns sold in the state to pay for cameras for police officers. Brandon Ellington, a Democratic lawmaker representing the Kansas City region, introduced separate bills that would require all uniformed police officers to wear body cameras and maintain recordings for 30 days, and would establish a tax on firearm sales to pay for the new mandate,
    [ ... ]
    The Associated Press, meanwhile, said Mr. Ellington’s measure is one of three dozen other bills that were recently filed on the heels of the St. Louis-area unrest.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...y-for-police-/

    Dance with the devil, then pay the piper. Follow the money.
    those are missouri hb 75 and 76. on the list.

    http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary....ar=2015&code=R
    http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary....ar=2015&code=R

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