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    Senate constitutional carry bill filed

    The Senate constitutional carry bill has been given number SB342. Can't read the text online yet but when it is available it will be available at the following link:
    http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...84R&Bill=SB342

    This is a companion bill to HB195 which is the constitutional carry bill in the House.

    This Senate bill contains a couple of "extras" that HB195 does not have
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    A ?: wouldn't constitutional carry require a constitutional amendment as opposed to just being a statue...

    Its a question folks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    A ?: wouldn't constitutional carry require a constitutional amendment as opposed to just being a statue...

    Its a question folks...
    Constitutional carry is kind of a loose term these days IMO. What it technically means is kind of to be determined IMO.

    In my opinion constitutional carry should simply mean that the laws are consistent with the constitution in that a person can carry a firearm openly or concealed without a permit. So constitutional carry imo refers to consistency with the constitution, not something actually within the constitution.

    We also have a resolution introduced, though, to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot to strike the text from section 23 of article one of the Texas constitution stating that the legislature shall have the power to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime
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    Stickland (sponsor of HB195) was on WBAP tonite on the Chris Crok show. Crok was taking the side that OC w/o state required gun safety training was irresponsible. Call screener argued that OK required it - told him that GA example s/b discussed, as well as all states w Constitutional carry - no massive numbers of injuries from 'untrained' OCers. Screener hung up on me.


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    Well I didn't see any difference between the house bill and the senate bill. Maybe I missed something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    Well I didn't see any difference between the house bill and the senate bill. Maybe I missed something?
    That would be a good thing then no need to go back and revise things just send to the governor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    Well I didn't see any difference between the house bill and the senate bill. Maybe I missed something?
    Just what I was told. I'll pull them up side by side and see what's different
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    I haven't been able to do a thorough analysis/comparison between the two but I believe there are most definitely noteworthy differences. For one, it looks as though SB342 drops trespass by license holder, which would afterward be trespass by person in possession of handgun, from a class A misdemeanor to a class C, which is a very appropriate/good change.
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    Trespass by a license holder is virtually nonapplicable under HB195 since PC 30.06 is limited to a person carrying under the authority of the license. As such, you could, in theory, walk right passed a 30.06 post HB195. SB352 changes 30.06 from license holder to person in possession, so it will apply to anyone carrying. However, the offense is lowered and it also requires verbal warning as well by changing the "or" to an "and."

    Two different methods, same outcome I feel.


    Oh and one thing that HB195 does that SB342 does not is adds correctional facilities to the same list of quasi prohibited places like churches.
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    Hmmmm

    Still will not allow you to carry or possess a "HANDGUN" on your own property, if you decide to have a few beers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zekester View Post
    Still will not allow you to carry or possess a "HANDGUN" on your own property, if you decide to have a few beers.
    Only if you decide to have a lot of beers? lol

    Really, [OH] consumption does not affect your rights....

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    There is a whole thread on that subject, feel free to post in it if there's anything to add to that discussion.
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    I used to worry about such things

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    Still will not allow you to carry or possess a "HANDGUN" on your own property, if you decide to have a few beers.
    I used to be preoccupied with such things. I now count Bill W amongst my friends. It has been blissful over the last 13 years not having to worry about that. You should get to know him too.

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    Congratulations Texans!

    I hope Constitutional Carry becomes law in Texas.

    I pray Idaho will be next.
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