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    South Dakota: Permitless Carry Legislation Introduced

    Good news if they pass it for South Dakota.




    Yesterday, a bill recognizing South Dakota's freedom to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a concealed pistol permit was introduced in the House of Representatives. Authored by Representative Jim Stalzer (R-11), House Bill 1116 is an important reform to current South Dakota law.

    HB 1116 is a necessary update to concealed carry statutes in South Dakota, allowing law-abiding gun owners the ability to protect themselves and their loved ones. In South Dakota, it is already legal to carry a firearm openly, as long as the individual is not prohibited by law from possessing a firearm. However, under current law, if a firearm becomes covered by a coat or if a woman prefers to carry a firearm for self-protection in her purse, one would need to possess a concealed pistol permit.

    This permitless carry legislation gives South Dakotans the freedom to choose the best method of carrying for them, based on their attire, gender and/or physical attributes. However, this legislation would also keep in place the current permitting system so that people who obtain a permit could still enjoy the reciprocity agreements that South Dakota has with other states.

    HB 1116 is an important pro-gun reform that deserves your support, and your NRA-ILA will keep you updated as this legislation is assigned to committee and moves through the legislative process. In the meantime, please use the links provided below to thank Representative Stalzer as well as the other 28 cosponsors for their work advancing your Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

    Representative Jim Stalzer (R-11)

    Representative Arch Beal (R-12)

    Representative Thomas J. Brunner (R-29)

    Representative Blaine Campbell (R-35)

    Representative Fred E. Deutsch (R-04)

    Representative Lynne A DiSanto (R-35)

    Representative Brian Gosch (R-32)

    Representative Michele Harrison (R-23)

    Representative Leslie Heinemann (R-08)

    Representative Steve Hickey (R-09)

    Representative Dan Kaiser (R-03)

    Representative Kris Langer (R-25)

    Representative J. Sam Marty (R-28B)

    Representative Elizabeth May (R-27)

    Representative Herman Otten (R-06)

    Representative Lance Russell (R-30)

    Representative Kyle Schoenfish (R-19)

    Representative Mike Verchio (R-30)

    Representative John J. Wiik (R-04)

    Representative Larry P. Zikmund (R-14)

    Senator Ernie Otten (R-06)

    Senator Corey Brown (R-23)

    Senator Brock Greenfield (R-02)

    Senator Jenna Haggar (R-10)

    Senator Phil Jensen (R-33)

    Senator Dan Lederman (R-16)

    Senator Betty Olson (R-28)

    Senator David Omdahl (R-11)

    Senator Tim Rave (R-25)

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    That is constitutional carry. Passage of this would move South Dakota into a very special group.
    http://my.opencarry.org/?page_id=164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    That is constitutional carry. Passage of this would move South Dakota into a very special group.
    http://my.opencarry.org/?page_id=164
    Lets hope it becomes a trend like "Shall issue permits" did through the last two decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Freedom View Post
    Lets hope it becomes a trend like "Shall issue permits" did through the last two decades.
    +1

    It appears that we may have a natural progression of moving from no permits or discriminatory issue permits, to shall issue permits, and now toward permit-free or constitutional carry. Along the way, I think we're also seeing a trend toward reducing off limits locations providing some protections to employees against anti-gun employment policies, and toward greater legal respect for the right to actually use force in self-defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    +1

    It appears that we may have a natural progression of moving from no permits or discriminatory issue permits, to shall issue permits, and now toward permit-free or constitutional carry. Along the way, I think we're also seeing a trend toward reducing off limits locations providing some protections to employees against anti-gun employment policies, and toward greater legal respect for the right to actually use force in self-defense.

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    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    I don't see even one Democrat in that list of cosponsors. Can this bill pass without them?even
    South Dakota; House members---58 Republicans 12 Democraps
    Senate members--27 Republicans 8 Democraps

    Yeah, I think they have a shot at passing the bill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Freedom View Post
    South Dakota; House members---58 Republicans 12 Democraps
    Senate members--27 Republicans 8 Democraps

    Yeah, I think they have a shot at passing the bill.
    Outside of their metro conclaves, you don't need a democrat for anything. And you don't even need them there, they just breed like rabbits in these cities.
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    It amazes me that there would even be a question about a law for Constitutional Carry would even be in question of passing.

    If only legislators knew their place.
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    Good luck South Dakota!
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    From NRA News:

    This morning, the South Dakota House State Affairs Committee heard and passed HB 1116, NRA-backed permitless carry legislation, by a 7-5 vote. Authored by Rep. Jim Stalzer (R-11), the bill respects your right to legally carry a concealed firearm without the burdensome requirement of acquiring a concealed pistol permit.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Watching from WA State..

    Congrats South Dakota! One step closer!!! Now for the State Senate and the Governors signature...
    Be safe, be prepared, and carry on!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOD View Post
    Congrats South Dakota! One step closer!!! Now for the State Senate and the Governors signature...
    Would that it be that easy. This was just a committee vote and not by an overwhelming majority.

    Wish to anticipate the best with the R v. D ratio in the senate.
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    House passes bill

    http://www.gunwatch.blogspot.com/201...se-passes.html



    HB1116, has passed the South Dakota House, 44-23. While that is an enormous majority, it is short, by one vote, of the 2/3 necessary to override a potential veto by Governor Daugaard.

    The house has 70 members, 58 of which are Republicans. In the Senate, there are 27 Republicans and 8 Democrats, a bit tighter ratio. The Governor, Dennis Daugaard, has been in office since 2011.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    http://www.gunwatch.blogspot.com/201...se-passes.html



    HB1116, has passed the South Dakota House, 44-23. While that is an enormous majority, it is short, by one vote, of the 2/3 necessary to override a potential veto by Governor Daugaard.

    The house has 70 members, 58 of which are Republicans. In the Senate, there are 27 Republicans and 8 Democrats, a bit tighter ratio. The Governor, Dennis Daugaard, has been in office since 2011.
    What is the governor's anticipated response if this bill reaches his desk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    What is the governor's anticipated response if this bill reaches his desk?
    If I could tell the future I would be rich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    If I could tell the future I would be rich.
    Wouldn't we all?

    Not too long ago Gov. Daugaard signed a bill allowing handguns in classrooms under some circumstances/conditions.

    Yet he vetoed a similar "permitless carry" bill in 2012.

    I'm receiving mixed signals from this gov - he seems to straddle the fence. Thought maybe someone local might have some insight.
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