interesting news for "love it or leave it!" big government conservatives

state hater said:

"The cost of getting rid of US citizenship has quadrupled to $2350, up from $450. The changes will come into effect on September 6th and the State Department says it is necessary to cover the real cost of processing an application to lose citizenship."

http://rt.com/usa/183972-fee-renounce-us-citizenship/

So stop saying that we can leave at the drop of a hat, fools (nevermind the immorality of a small ruling class claiming personal ownership of > 3 million square miles and grossly infringing on the rights of people who own property in that territory).

No one owns me. I don't want to leave my property.

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state hater said:

"The cost of getting rid of US citizenship has quadrupled to $2350, up from $450. The changes will come into effect on September 6th and the State Department says it is necessary to cover the real cost of processing an application to lose citizenship."

http://rt.com/usa/183972-fee-renounce-us-citizenship/

So stop saying that we can leave at the drop of a hat, fools (nevermind the immorality of a small ruling class claiming personal ownership of > 3 million square miles and grossly infringing on the rights of people who own property in that territory).

No one owns me. I don't want to leave my property.

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Primus said:

So if you walked into Mexico they'd charge you that? His about if you walked into Canada? Or maybe took a flight to Afghanistan and just never cane back. His would they find you? Do they send a tax guy to the Congo if you decide to live there?

Hmmmm.....

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WalkingWolf said:

We have extradition treaties with all the above countries. IRS still demands taxes on money earned outside the US, and it would be crime to not pay those taxes. Yes if you earn any decent amount of money they will find you.

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SovereigntyOrDeath said:

Makes no sense to pay to renounce.

Just cancel all contracts, or not.

Leave and be done with it.

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Primus said:

So if you walked into Mexico they'd charge you that? His about if you walked into Canada? Or maybe took a flight to Afghanistan and just never cane back. His would they find you? Do they send a tax guy to the Congo if you decide to live there?

Hmmmm.....

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Primus said:

Do you have a cite or example of a case? Thanks in advance.

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WalkingWolf said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extradition_treaties

For someone who claims to be a cop, you do not have a very good grasp of the law, do you?

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Primus said:

So if you walked into Mexico they'd charge you that? His about if you walked into Canada? Or maybe took a flight to Afghanistan and just never cane back. His would they find you? Do they send a tax guy to the Congo if you decide to live there?

Hmmmm.....

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In recent years, the U.S. government has been cracking down on what it sees as American tax cheats – people hiding money in offshore accounts. Things are about to get worse for Americans, accidental or not, who are hoping they can escape the reach of Uncle Sam. As of 2014, a U.S. law – the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act – will require Canadian financial institutions to start red-flagging Americans who have Canadian accounts to the IRS.

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Jeff. State said:

primus, your ignorance knows no bounds. I have a cousin born in Oklahoma to Canadian citizen parents, they moved back to Canada when she was 3. SHe is now in her late 40s being harassed by the IRS in Canada for her entire life's "income" IN CANADA. This is happening all over the globe even to children born in other countries to US citizen parents that never stepped foot in this godforsaken country.

Here are a couple links, I will provide MANY more if you wish.



http://www.thenewamerican.com/econo...s-private-financial-data-with-foreign-tyrants

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/glob...ace-looming-irs-tax-deadline/article12473920/



^^^^^This is happening in every civilized country around the earth.

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SovereigntyOrDeath said:

Mexico would work. Just need to bribe the right "officials" for a birth certificate, ID, passport. You could get a whole new identity.........

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Nightmare said:

It is not ignorance, it is rank (means stinking) trollery to make you think you are engaged, it could as well be an 'bot.

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MSG Laigaie said:

I have heard "love it or leave it" since I was a teenager and ice covered most of this continent. I, for one, do not care if you come here or were born here and "don't like it". I DO care if you come here, don't like it and try to change it to what you had. That I don't like.

We like it here and that is why you came here. Don't like what you found? Go home. The Document Rules, not your hurt little feelings.

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Jeff. State said:

I have looked at leaving and going to Canada or New Zealand. The IRS will expect their cut in addition to whatever I pay to the country I immigrate to.

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SovereigntyOrDeath said:

Then it might just pencil for you to pay the fee, renounce, and be free of your burdens. No more IRS, no more Constitution or Bill of Rights.No brainer.

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Jeff. State said:

Yes, no brainer, That's what I keep telling family moving to Canada or NZ, at least they aren't pretending to be some kind of bastion of freedom and liberty. "no more Constitution or Bill of Rights" rings just as true in the USA as Canada.


Going to Canada..... as Edmond Dantes said in The Count of Monte Cristo "Smuggling is the life for me". All I have here in the US to protect me and mine WOULD find it's way N. of the border.

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