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    Senate sets hearing on open carry

    The Senate set hearing for Thursday on open carry SB346. This is the licensed open carry bill.

    http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillL...84R&Bill=SB346


    SB342 is the Constitutional carry and hasn't been scheduled yet.

    It is once again a great time to call the Sate Affairs committee chair and its members to politely ask to schedule SB342.......

    Committee Chair
    Joan Huffman
    (512) 463-0117
    Vice-Chair
    Rodney Ellis
    (512) 463-0113
    Members:
    Brian Birdwell
    (512) 463-0122
    Brandon Creighton
    (512) 463-0104
    Craig Estes
    (512) 463-0130
    Troy Fraser
    (512) 463-0124
    Jane Nelson
    (512) 463-0112
    Charles Schwertner
    (512) 463-0105
    Judith Zaffirini
    (512) 463-0121

    I think it's also a good time to mention to the chair and the other Republican members that the Republican party platform adopted in 2014 calls for Constitutional carry and even more.... The grassroots who walked for these people door to door, attended meetings, and donated their hard earned dollars decided the following:

    RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF PRIORITIZING CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY LEGISLATION
    We call upon the 84th Texas Legislature to propose to the people of Texas a constitutional
    amendment to strike “; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of
    arms, with a view to prevent crime” from Article I, Section 23 of the Texas Constitution.
    Further, we request the State Party Chair and the State Republican Executive Committee
    consider adoption of such an amendment and other legislation necessary to remove restrictions
    on Texans' right to own and bear arms a legislative priority for the Republican Party of Texas for
    the 2015 legislative session and to utilize reasonable Party resources necessary to promote and
    support their passage.

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    Licensed open carry seems to be the priority for them. HB 106 and 164 just got assigned to the Homeland Security & Public Safety committee.

    http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...84R&Bill=HB106

    http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLoo...84R&Bill=HB164

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    HB910 is the companion bill of SB346 and already has 65 authors/co-authors. See: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillL...84R&Bill=HB910

    The worst case scenario is we will have licensed open carry for now.

    Our goal is Constitutional carry!

    The bottom line is we will advance gun rights in this legislative session. That is a very good thing.

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    Getting PERMISSION from the State is an absolute infringement on the 2nd.

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    Baby steps. better than no OC IMO. Now once again, where is the NRA? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wethepeople View Post
    Baby steps. better than no OC IMO. Now once again, where is the NRA? LOL!
    I agree. Like Count said, constituational carry is our GOAL. However, if we don't achieve that, licensed OC is still a major victory and a step in the right direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wethepeople View Post
    Baby steps. better than no OC IMO. Now once again, where is the NRA? LOL!
    I think that even if baby steps are taken, it is still important to be clear in our stated positions that constitutional carry is the only actually acceptable outcome. Yes, I think it is fair to say that having an additional exemption to the handgun prohibition is better than having one less, but we cannot pretend to legislators that their gutlessness in failing to support constitutional carry is commendable. And no, I'm not saying to confront them with accusations of gutlessness. I'm only saying to not pretend the opposite. Don't praise them for bad behavior, and failure to represent their constituents. I was literally told "I don't want that responsibility" referring to supporting gun rights when some individuals might use firearms inappropriately. That is unacceptable and I'll never praise a legislator for succumbing to that position.
    Advocate freedom please

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    I completely agree with Constitutional carry is a must! If we manage to move any gun bill, amendments are possible. I think it is very much achievable this session. For a bill to be brought on to the Senate floor we need 19 votes. SB11 (campus carry) has 20 authors, SB346 (licensed open carry) has 13 and growing. GOOD there. In the house Strauss controls the calendars committee with an iron fist. However HB910 is gaining huge traction with its 64 authors/co-authors so far. We need to build on that momentum to make it to the floor. Otherwise we can have the necessary votes to pass (50% + 1), but we will never be able to bring any bill to the floor to give it a chance to pass.... Patience and wisdom guys! We can win this! Stay in the fight!

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    Party leadership won't usually allow those neocons who are more antigun to be exposed, especially if it is the leadership that is anti gun. It sounds like licensed OC is the low hanging fruit. It would be nice if there were pro gun people to testify against the privilege card OC bill.
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    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    My main concern about the licensed OC is that they add garbage like types of holsters permitted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    My main concern about the licensed OC is that they add garbage like types of holsters permitted.
    That's what the piggy unions did to us in 2011, but they failed. They wanted a "level 2" retention holster and "retention training" and "license display". They didn't get any of it. It was the retail federation that killed licensed OC in Fl, but you all have that signage law so here's to hoping the anti gun retailers won't care.

    I think it's best to have the law worded like Georgia's, where the crime isn't carrying a handgun, but carrying a handgun without a license. I don't think it should matter per the courts, but LE doesn't always appear to care. I've never been asked to show my Fl license while OCing in Georgia. That's the only licensed OC state I've OCed in.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    Getting PERMISSION from the State is an absolute infringement on the 2nd.
    Getting permission from the State is an absolute improvement over denial.

    Meanwhile pursue Constitutional Carry.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack House View Post
    My main concern about the licensed OC is that they add garbage like types of holsters permitted.
    Hey Jack. I saw it requires you have a shoulder or belt holster. No boob holsters that I saw are listed yet......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count View Post
    Hey Jack. I saw it requires you have a shoulder or belt holster. No boob holsters that I saw are listed yet......
    They are going to require you to have a bra?
    "The wicked flee when no man persueth: but the righteous are as bold as a lion" Proverbs 28:1

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    The bill number has been changed!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you go to testify on Thursday be aware the bill for licensed open carry was scheduled as SB17 vs the originally filed SB346. If you testify arrive at 8am or so.... The hearing starts at 9. Last time I testified I prepared a written outline of my testimony for each member of the committee. You can outright support this bill, or just mark on the checklist you'll be handed as testifying on the bill. If you testify on the bill you could say ideally we need unlicensed open carry or constitutional carry just don't start testifying about other bills, because they will likely stop you...... The committee members may come and go during testimony, so it can be chaotic...... Don't check on the list that you are against this bill..... We will only hurt our effort if we oppose licensed carry..... Take everything we can get now and come back for more!!!!

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    Here is a Youtube video from our new Dallas State Senator Don Huffines - he wants action on 2 Issues - a) term limits and b) Constitutional OC. Good first step Don - get'er done!!!

    http://youtu.be/HJZsUt_PPxQ


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    Quote Originally Posted by Count View Post
    Hey Jack. I saw it requires you have a shoulder or belt holster. No boob holsters that I saw are listed yet......
    Guess that'd be an issue for you, eh. Why I have issues with it. No one's right to carry should be infringed.

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    NRA-ILA has posted info on their website and Senator contacts

    https://www.nraila.org/articles/2015...ills-this-week
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    Great link - streaming testimony now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Count View Post
    HB910 is the companion bill of SB346 and already has 65 authors/co-authors. See: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/BillL...84R&Bill=HB910

    The worst case scenario is we will have licensed open carry for now.

    Our goal is Constitutional carry!

    The bottom line is we will advance gun rights in this legislative session. That is a very good thing.
    I can not remember but what is the new number for Const. carry. When it was introduced as HB 195.

    Thanks

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    I only know of HB195...... Stickland is the author. Capitol Phone: (512) 463-0522

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    Watched abt 3 hours of testimony. Very well spoken testimony. Grisham was very good. Looks like ALL college Administrators are scared of ANY guns on their public campi that could protect students OR shoot teachers/professors. Had one former ACC police officer Camacho say CHL on campus w/b good, due to weaknesses of existing procedures to protect against shooters.


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    Several folks testified that the full Republican plank was Constitutional Carry, not licensed, so Bill s/b amended by Senate to get Legislature out of regulating the 2A in Texas.


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    Both bills to full Texas Senate - 7-2 Republicans vs Dhimi-crats.
    Houston Senator from Mickey Leland/Barbara Jordan's district votes 'no', effectively upholding Jim Crow laws passed after Reconstruction to keep guns out of poor black hands. Other 'no' vote was from Laredo on the Mexican border - too scared the Zetas will kill her family if she allows Texans, and in the S Texas Valley - mainly Hispanics - to better protect themselves from who-knows-what coming across the Mexican border.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/...ass-committee/
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