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    Open Carry inside Chesterfield Co. Courthouse: citizens are intimidated

    Oh dear...

    Rifle-toting deputy Sniper takes post at courts building -- Necessary or overkill?
    The Sheriff’s Office began posting a deputy on the second floor overlooking the main lobby – did we mention the big gun, which looks like an automatic assault weapon, but is actually a .223-caliber pump-action rifle that holds a 30-round magazine? – a little more than two weeks ago.

    The county sheriff, Karl S. Leonard, said the guard is there as a precautionary measure.

    “It’s simply being proactive. We live in a different age today,” Leonard said last week, explaining that there wasn’t a specific threat or “special circumstance” that led him to create the new second-floor post at the courthouse.

    Some, however, question the logic. Steven D. Benjamin, a wellknown Richmond defense attorney, said the presence of a rifleman is unnecessary – and intimidating.

    “I have no expertise in courthouse security and must defer to those who do,” Benjamin said. “Now, that said, I wonder if there aren’t better ways to ensure that there is adequate security at the entrance.”

    For example, Benjamin said, why not simply place another deputy at the entrance who isn’t responsible for checking in visitors?

    Being seen is precisely the point, said Leonard, who is making no apologies.

    “There’s no secrets here,” Leonard said.
    Anyone here know the County Sheriff?


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    I don't see a sling. That means he has to hold it by the pistol grip. Holding your booger hook flat alongside the receiver for extended periods of time can be painful. Waggling your booger hook or resting it inside the trigger guard relieves that pain.

    How long is that one deputy going to stand there? What will he do with the rifle if (when) he moves around?

    What training does he have? When was the last time he qualified with that weapon, firing from that angle? What, BTW, was the qualification course of fire?*

    Since when is a pump-action .223 "standard" issue?

    And a few more questions, but I don't want to overload anybody.

    stay safe.

    * - for reference, California Dept of Corrections tower officers train quarterly for shooting into the recreation yards and onto the fences, and qualify semi-annually. The inmates are cleared from the yard, targets put out, and the officers fire live rounds. Yes, the inmates manage to watch the qualification shooting from inside the cellblock.

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    doesnt look like a good angle to me if someone blows thru checkpoint wag


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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    I don't see a sling. That means he has to hold it by the pistol grip. Holding your booger hook flat alongside the receiver for extended periods of time can be painful. Waggling your booger hook or resting it inside the trigger guard relieves that pain.

    How long is that one deputy going to stand there? What will he do with the rifle if (when) he moves around?

    What training does he have? When was the last time he qualified with that weapon, firing from that angle? What, BTW, was the qualification course of fire?*

    Since when is a pump-action .223 "standard" issue?

    And a few more questions, but I don't want to overload anybody.

    stay safe.

    * - for reference, California Dept of Corrections tower officers train quarterly for shooting into the recreation yards and onto the fences, and qualify semi-annually. The inmates are cleared from the yard, targets put out, and the officers fire live rounds. Yes, the inmates manage to watch the qualification shooting from inside the cellblock.

    stay safe.
    He may well be using a single point sling attached to the middle of the long gun, although I've never seen such attached to what appears to be suspenders.
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    Unnecessary---- and intimidating.

    Sounds like a deterrent to me?

    He must have screwed up somewhere big time to pull that duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    I don't see a sling. That means he has to hold it by the pistol grip. Holding your booger hook flat alongside the receiver for extended periods of time can be painful. Waggling your booger hook or resting it inside the trigger guard relieves that pain.

    How long is that one deputy going to stand there? What will he do with the rifle if (when) he moves around?

    What training does he have? When was the last time he qualified with that weapon, firing from that angle? What, BTW, was the qualification course of fire?*

    Since when is a pump-action .223 "standard" issue?

    And a few more questions, but I don't want to overload anybody.

    stay safe.

    * - for reference, California Dept of Corrections tower officers train quarterly for shooting into the recreation yards and onto the fences, and qualify semi-annually. The inmates are cleared from the yard, targets put out, and the officers fire live rounds. Yes, the inmates manage to watch the qualification shooting from inside the cellblock.

    stay safe.
    I do see something that appears to be a sling. Runs over left shoulder under right arm to butt stock. [emoji6] I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
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    The offer to pay transportation expenses is made again. Please come on down and 1) bring a video camera into the courthouse and 2) ask the deputy your question repeatedly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    He may well be using a single point sling attached to the middle of the long gun, although I've never seen such attached to what appears to be suspenders.
    That coiled cord running across his back is his mic cord. It lets him reach up and key the mic without having to take the whole big, heavy, cumbersome radio out of its pouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    That coiled cord running across his back is his mic cord. It lets him reach up and key the mic without having to take the whole big, heavy, cumbersome radio out of its pouch.

    stay safe.
    There, we have it.

    From left lower at belt line over right shoulder is the mic cord.

    Over his left shoulder and passing just above his belt on the right side is an optional use of a single point sling.
    Compare this image to the one of the sheriff's deputy.



    Some prefer slinging the gun over their other shoulder, like this:


    Note that both images appear to be right handed.





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    Hey that's great and posting in that spot makes it convenient for a bad guy to take him out and simply lower the weapons POA and take out the ground guards too.

    This whole idea of: "we'll keep law abiding gun carriers afraid to exercise their rights." is pathetic, and as others have pointed out begging for a mishap.
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    Enough - Stop!

    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
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    David you need to leave Virginia statutes, Virginia Administrative Code, ordinances, and rules set by judges to those that have a much more intimate knowledge than you possess on the subject.

    What you do in Connecticut has absolutely nothing to do with Virginia. Someone less knowledgeable might take your advice/remarks and misapplication of our laws to heart and thereby find themselves in a world of hurt.

    That brand of hype stops here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    David you need to leave Virginia statutes, Virginia Administrative Code, ordinances, and rules set by judges to those that have a much more intimate knowledge than you possess on the subject.

    What you do in Connecticut has absolutely nothing to do with Virginia. Someone less knowledgeable might take your advice/remarks and misapplication of our laws to heart and thereby find themselves in a world of hurt.

    That brand of hype stops here.
    What "world of hurt" can happen from trying to gain entry with a camera? What? Worst case is that they turn you away, correct? Right?

    No one cited anything in this thread....including you.

    You need to apologize IMO


    Also, I dealt with this issue in CT where they were NOT allowing me to bring in cameras, audio recorders, video recorders...I had them change the rule ! Below is from the court in CT that makes such decisions in respect to my arguments that recording devices must be allowed in courthouses ... I get things done ! So things can change but not by crying about my posts...

    I wanted to let you know that we have discussed the issue that you brought to our attention, namely, that the judicial marshals in New Britain did not allow you to bring your camera into the courthouse. As we discussed, the Use and Possession of Electronic Devices in Superior Court Facilities now allows persons to have a number of electronic devices, including devices that can broadcast, record or take photographs. A directive will be going out to the marshals instructing them to allow persons to bring electronic devices that are listed in the policy into all state courthouses.



    Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention and for your patience in getting it resolved.


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    Even VA has a FOIA Act ...

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+2.2-3707

    Meetings can be recorded (camera/video/etc) and most courthouses have admin meetings required to be open meetings ...

    And open records act too in VA .... that do not limit a person in videotaping or reading into a voice recorder notes of an inspection of records. Not all records in a courthouse are exempt from the FOIA Act.

    A simple letter to the court administrator who promulgates rules should suffice...outlining why a rule (even if there is one) saying that no cameras, video recorders, or audio recorders are not allowed in the building violates your FOIA Act.....hop to it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    What "world of hurt" can happen from trying to gain entry with a camera? What? Worst case is that they turn you away, correct? Right?
    While courthouse security personnel try to play nicely there is nothing preventing them from arresting you for trying to bring contraband (as defined by the stuff on the sign out front) into the courthouse building. The Chief Judge has the power and authority to set the rules for "his" courthouse and so far nobody has sucessfully appealed that. http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...000+cod+8.01-4 (It's a misdemeanor. I realized I had not specifically mentioned that and did not want you to say you missed it in the statute.)

    It continues to astound and amaze me that the laws and rules in CT and VA are not identical. I know it must drive you [even more] batty.

    As to http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...0+cod+2.2-3707 - what public, open meetings can you tell me of that are held in Virginia courthouses? To my knowlwdge there are none because of the general prohibition against video and/or audio recording devices. Sneaky, isn't it - Making "No" mean "No".
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    The offer to pay transportation expenses is made again. Please come on down and 1) bring a video camera into the courthouse and 2) ask the deputy your question repeatedly.
    I believe this is the third or fourth time I've seen you direct your "I'll pay for you to come show us how it's done!" taunting toward DM.
    I have to say it's coming across as immature and even bullying. He's obviously not taking the bait so please stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    I believe this is the third or fourth time I've seen you direct your "I'll pay for you to come show us how it's done!" taunting toward DM.
    I have to say it's coming across as immature and even bullying. He's obviously not taking the bait so please stop.
    Please DON'T stop Skid.

    I can't wait for the wonderful wizard to come and fix all the problems he seems to think we have. A trip with free food, transportation and lodging should be enough for a normal person, but we ARE talking about McB. ( I rank his problem solving ability to be right up there with Tmac's)
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    I believe this is the third or fourth time I've seen you direct your "I'll pay for you to come show us how it's done!" taunting toward DM.
    I have to say it's coming across as immature and even bullying. He's obviously not taking the bait so please stop.
    I respectfull disagree with your characterization of taunting.

    I want to receive instruction on how things ought to be done and how to get that to happen. It's not possible to do that by travelling up to CT. david needs to come down here and show us how to do it when dealing with actual Virginia elected officials and bureaucrats and judges.

    From what I hear there are others that also want to receive such instruction.

    And yes, there are a number of posters that do want to see him not only fail but suffer negative consequences when he applies CT tactics to VA reality. I can't help that.

    I'd like to hear your considered opinion why david "is not taking the bait", especially in light of the legitimate desire to learn that has been repeatedly expressed.

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    Twoskins...accusing someone of bullying David or Charles is like claiming animal cruelty for using lice Control medication.

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    Sheriff Leonard

    Did I mention the Sheriff is a republican?

    Karl Leonard For Chesterfield County Sheriff

    He shows how he can save taxpayer money:



    And he supports Congressman Dave Brat - he announces a Town Hall for Brat next week. I wonder if they will allow OC?


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    Hmmm. With there not being any reason to get up and on the road before daylight the next morning it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

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    Colonel Ken King equates courthouse with the Pentagon

    Anyone accept the analogy?

    Courthouse sniper helps deter terrorists
    I am a 32-year U.S. Army retired colonel and think this proactive measure [“Rifle-toting deputy takes post at courts buildings,” Feb. 4] is exactly what is needed. The tactic of placing a long-gun-toting deputy on the second floor overlooking the entrance and exit screening area is a page right out of the playbook of the Pentagon. Visit the Pentagon at any point, and you will not only see one sentry but may see multiple security figures each carrying a long-range rifle or shotgun overlooking the entryway.

    This is needed if for no other reason than to deter potential threats; believe me, it does work. The terrorists are looking for weak spots and opportunities. Leonard made a critical comment in the article that I feel places this in perspective: “I don’t want to be in [a] position where I have to answer to the citizens after an attack why didn’t I do this beforehand.”

    The Monday-morning quarterbacks will question why this is needed in today’s society, then will ask a similar question after an attack occurs: Why weren’t more prudent and proactive security measures taken? The bottom line is the establishment will be questioned either way. Therefore, go ahead and answer the mail now with proactive security and protect the citizens; few have been penalized for taking more proactive and aggressive security measures. Yet many have been penalized for not doing so. Drive on!

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    That misses the central point: why should law-enforcement be The Only Ones who may carry inside courthouses on Virginia?

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    Besides the point raised by Repeater, I'm wondering: When was the last time someone attempted to run into a courthouse while yelling "Aloha Snackbar!" and causing a self-initiated kablooie? And if someone tried to do that how much good would the second-story sniper be in stopping them before they kablooied themself?

    Of course it's possible that the first incident could happen at the Chesterfield County Courthouse - but realistically how probable is it? The Pentagon is a much more realistic target for that to happen - but again I ask just how effective would the snipers be in stopping the crazy person before they go all kablooie?

    If somebody is going to try to sneak a firearm in so they can go to a specific courtroom and exact vengance/retribution on someone who will be there they will most likely not have that firearm readily to hand. Instead it's going to be concealed and the deputy on groper duty will in fact have the mechanical advantage over the person trying to sneak the firearm in. If that someone does not want to meekly comply with the deputy's instructions about surrendering there is most likely going to be some sort of physical struggle. Is the second-story sniper good enough to take out the BG while not hitting the deputy while those two are thrashing about on the floor?

    It's Security Drama (A new episode every Wednesday. Check your local listings for the time and channel.)

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    It's really pretty naive when you think about it. Even with that nasty manly woman running everyone's coat through the xray, it's a no brainer to get a small firearm in. The second floor is public and the thing for a determined suicidal person to do is walk up, shoot him and use his rifle for skeet shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    It's really pretty naive when you think about it. Even with that nasty manly woman running everyone's coat through the xray, it's a no brainer to get a small firearm in. The second floor is public and the thing for a determined suicidal person to do is walk up, shoot him and use his rifle for skeet shooting.
    If you are going to commit suicide by cop or get even with the world for __ there are so many better places to do it. To begin with, all the cell phones are outside the courthouse, so how can anybody video your being gunned down in a hail of bullets?

    What this County needs is more donut shops!

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    Excellent LTE

    Well here's a Letter to the Editor that's worth reading:

    Sheriff covers ‘hindquarters’ with sniper
    Law enforcement circles the wagons!

    When I first read the front page article in the Feb. 4 edition, “Rifle-toting deputy takes post at courts building,” there were several things that grabbed my attention and forced me to draw several conclusions. I am surprised that Mr. Allen [“Courthouse sniper or nothing? Not really,” March 11] drew different conclusions. Surprisingly, it does not seem as if Mr. Allen read the original article in the Feb. 4 issue. I am very familiar with domestic law enforcement use of force policies as I have worked with the California Bureau of Narcotics Enforcement, INS, U.S. Border Patrol, California Highway Patrol and the Department of Forestry, to name a few. I was not part of the threat assessment, but Sheriff Leonard gave us some insight into why he made the decision to add the deputy.

    • “The guard is there as a precautionary measure.”

    • “It’s simply being proactive. We live in a different age today.”

    • “There wasn’t a specific threat or ‘special circumstance’ that led him to create the new second-floor post at the courthouse.”

    • “If there’s going to be a threat to us, it’s going to come through those doors.”

    • “So we know if there’s an attack, those two deputies won’t have time to react.”

    • “Being seen is precisely the point.”

    • “We want potential gunmen to know that this courthouse is a hard target and not a soft target. To sit here today in this day and age and to think it’ll never happen to us is poor planning, poor leadership….”

    • “It was a culmination of events, the new reality that terrorist attacks are now and always a threat.”

    • “I don’t want to be in a position where I have to answer to the citizens after an attack why didn’t I do this beforehand.”

    According to the article, the deputy is armed with a “.223 caliber pump-action rifle that holds a 30-round magazine.” You do not need to be a special operator or retired FBI agent to know that a pump-action rifle in this situation is waste of taxpayer money. In fact, I would say that a deputy armed with this type of rifle in an armed confrontation in a crowded courthouse is a danger to the public.

    Mr. Allen, there was no specific threat or a request from a judge. The sheriff was being proactive based on the “new reality” that terrorist attacks are a threat even though it’s almost 14 years after 9/11. Really? I stand by my original assessment. If you are going to do the job, then do it right. Sheriff Leonard, don’t use my tax dollars to cover your “hindquarters.”

    Brian Dunn
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