Results 1 to 17 of 17

Thread: Son gives mom a firearm... She needed it a week later

  1. #1
    Regular Member Kopis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    Posts
    727

    Son gives mom a firearm... She needed it a week later

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...lf-needing-it/

    West Columbus Police Sgt. Dave Sicilian confirmed to the news station that the “homeowner was awakened and defended herself.”

    However, he also reportedly added, “We need to determine if she needed to defend herself and if she took the proper action.”

    Wasnt sure about that last line. if someone broke into your house, i would say you unequivocally need to defend yourself. It's not like they want a cup of tea.

  2. #2
    Regular Member OC for ME's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    White Oak Plantation
    Posts
    12,274
    I depends on what state you live in.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

  3. #3
    Regular Member Maverick9's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Mid-atlantic
    Posts
    1,507
    Ohio has a C. Doct.

    Ohio Revised Code reads: 2901.09 No Duty to retreat in residence or vehicle.

    (A) As used in this section, “residence” and “vehicle” have the same meanings as in section 2901.05 of the Revised Code.
    (B) For purposes of any section of the Revised Code that sets forth a criminal offense, a person who lawfully is in that person’s residence has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense, defense of another, or defense of that person’s residence, and a person who lawfully is an occupant of that person’s vehicle or who lawfully is an occupant in a vehicle owned by an immediate family member of the person has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense or defense of another.
    Leave it to the Sgt not to know this.

  4. #4
    Regular Member Kopis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Nashville, TN
    Posts
    727
    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    Ohio has a C. Doct.



    Leave it to the Sgt not to know this.
    Nice, good work. Very surprising (or not) a Sgt. wouldnt know basic information like this.

  5. #5
    Regular Member OC for ME's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    White Oak Plantation
    Posts
    12,274
    Sarge's statement is troubling and should trouble the good citizens of OH as well.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

  6. #6
    Regular Member FreeInAZ's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Secret Bunker
    Posts
    2,573
    Quote Originally Posted by oc for me View Post
    sarge's statement is troubling and should trouble the good citizens of oh as well.
    amen! Qft. +1
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "You must be the change you wish to see in the world" by Mahatma Gandhi

    “Your beliefs become your thoughts. Your thoughts become your words. Your words become your actions. Your actions become your habits. Your habits become your values. Your values become your destiny.” by Mahatma Gandhi

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    missouri
    Posts
    497
    "Please stay in your home and remain a victim until we arrive, you may be dead by then, but that is the price you will pay for community peace and safety"

    and tell me please, what part of that statement makes sense? as this seems to be the typical LEO's train of thought along with the left's.

  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2015
    Location
    NW Ohio
    Posts
    61
    Old thread I know but as an ohio resident I wanted to chime in..ohio castle doctrine is not true castle doctrine such as florida has. You still have to articulate fear of grievous bodily harm or death

  9. #9
    Accomplished Advocate BB62's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
    Posts
    3,887
    Quote Originally Posted by caleb4387 View Post
    Old thread I know but as an ohio resident I wanted to chime in..ohio castle doctrine is not true castle doctrine such as florida has. You still have to articulate fear of grievous bodily harm or death
    Please enlighten us as to nature of Florida's castle doctrine vs Ohio's, the similarities and differences thereof, within one's home.

  10. #10
    Regular Member WalkingWolf's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    12,279
    Impossible, she only had the gun a week, and probably lacked training. We all have been told that without training a gun is useless for self defense.

    Wonder how many rounds she fired, and how many hit the perp. Betting it is the same.
    It is well that war is so terrible – otherwise we would grow too fond of it.
    Robert E. Lee
    The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth.
    Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson
    What separates the winners from the losers is how a person reacts to each new twist of fate.
    President Donald Trump

  11. #11
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,628
    Law Professor: Women Can’t Use Guns Effectively

    http://minutemennews.com/law-profess...s-effectively/
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

  12. #12
    Regular Member DeSchaine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Posts
    604
    Studies done by many, many professional[s] have shown that it is really, really unlikely for anyone to use a gun effectively in self defense, especially in cases of sexual assault.
    -University of Miami law professor Mary Anne Franks

    Really? Name one, you overpaid socialist mouthpiece. You can't. But I sure as hell can prove you wrong. It's so easy that kids can do it.

    15 yr old in TX

    11 yr old girl in MI

    And thats just two.

    Franks argued that guns are “highly effective” when they are being used for crimes, “but are rarely effective in preventing them."
    See my links above. VERY effective in my opinion.
    Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.
    Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.
    Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force.
    Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.
    -Patrick Henry, Virginia Ratification Convention, June 5, 1788

  13. #13
    Regular Member Freedom1Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Greater Eastside Washington
    Posts
    4,690
    Quote Originally Posted by DeSchaine View Post
    -University of Miami law professor Mary Anne Franks

    Really? Name one, you overpaid socialist mouthpiece. You can't. But I sure as hell can prove you wrong. It's so easy that kids can do it.

    15 yr old in TX

    11 yr old girl in MI

    And thats just two.



    See my links above. VERY effective in my opinion.
    You know that Grape was, um, being difficult and not seriously believing a word of that statement.

    Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

  14. #14
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,628
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    You know that Grape was, um, being difficult and not seriously believing a word of that statement.

    Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk
    No personal offense was taken. He was reacting to the poor analysis in the article I'm sure.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

  15. #15
    Regular Member DeSchaine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Location
    Kalamazoo, MI
    Posts
    604
    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom1Man View Post
    You know that Grape was, um, being difficult and not seriously believing a word of that statement.
    Well, considering your average houseplant is smarter than any liberal, brainwashing socialist, I fully confident that Grape knows better.

    And actually, Grape, I was reacting to the complete and total fabrication of a seriously large pile of male bovine fecal matter. That wasn't poor analysis. It was an utter lack of it, cementing in my mind the fact that this woman lives and works in some fantasy world.
    Guard with jealous attention the public liberty.
    Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel.
    Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force.
    Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.
    -Patrick Henry, Virginia Ratification Convention, June 5, 1788

  16. #16
    Regular Member Freedom1Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Greater Eastside Washington
    Posts
    4,690
    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    No personal offense was taken. He was reacting to the poor analysis in the article I'm sure.
    [emoji334] [emoji337] [emoji341] [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
    It was a heads up for those who do not know you the way we do.

    Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk
    Provision for free medical attendance and nursing, for clothing, for food, for housing, for the education of children, and a hundred other matters, might with equal propriety be proposed as tending to relieve the employee of mental strain and worry. --- These matters obviously lie outside the orbit of congressional power. (Railroad Retirement Board v Alton Railroad)

  17. #17
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,628
    [QUOTE=Freedom1Man;2165700][emoji334] [emoji337] [emoji341] [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
    It was a heads up for those who do not know you the way we do.
    /QUOTE]
    Blushes and shuffles feet.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •