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    Houston, YOU have a problem!

    Folks, we've been doing long gun open carry demonstrations for years now (I can actually says years ever since we hit the two year mark, hehe.)

    Just months after the egregious false arrest and attempted destruction of evidence incident, and after promises that the issue would be handled properly, we have another show of great legal ignorance and disrespect for the rights of citizens by Houston PD.

    -- Officer detains individual without RAS
    -- Officer exists vehicle with rifle at low ready, keeps rifle at low ready and takes confrontational and aggressive stance
    -- Officer claims to be part of or in support of the "3 percent," but doesn't understand or respect constitutional rights
    -- Refers to assertion of rights as "constitutional ********"
    -- Refers to Houston streets as "my streets"
    -- Officer interferes with lawful recording by moving camera and pointing it away from unlawful confrontation by police
    -- Officer repeatedly makes false statements about the law, being either ignorant or untruthful, neither of which are acceptable
    -- Officer lies to DA's office about first encounter

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-MyFH6EfAc

    If anyone wants to take the time to count the number of questions that went unanswered... I'd love to know what the total count was.
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    Just saw this one myself.

    Unreal!


    This was about the best I have seen someone react or lack of reacting to being violated by an absolute STATIST.

    This cops appeals of being pro-2nd and a "III" percenter are equivilant to a RAPIST telling his victim that he's volunteers at the womens shelter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
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    This was about the best I have seen someone react or lack of reacting to being violated by an absolute STATIST.
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    Agreed, he handled it pretty well.

    Apparently the department had training after the last incident, just a couple of months ago or so, where the police actually made an unlawful arrest (then released him on scene) and tried to delete video footage. See how much good that did?

    Another day, another IA investigation that will not provide justice for the victim. But that's being pessimistic, let's see where it goes. http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/...ator/24040017/
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Folks, we've been doing long gun open carry demonstrations for years now (I can actually says years ever since we hit the two year mark, hehe.)

    Just months after the egregious false arrest and attempted destruction of evidence incident, and after promises that the issue would be handled properly, we have another show of great legal ignorance and disrespect for the rights of citizens by Houston PD.

    -- Officer detains individual without RAS
    -- Officer exists vehicle with rifle at low ready, keeps rifle at low ready and takes confrontational and aggressive stance
    -- Officer claims to be part of or in support of the "3 percent," but doesn't understand or respect constitutional rights
    -- Refers to assertion of rights as "constitutional ********"
    -- Refers to Houston streets as "my streets"
    -- Officer interferes with lawful recording by moving camera and pointing it away from unlawful confrontation by police
    -- Officer repeatedly makes false statements about the law, being either ignorant or untruthful, neither of which are acceptable
    -- Officer lies to DA's office about first encounter

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-MyFH6EfAc

    If anyone wants to take the time to count the number of questions that went unanswered... I'd love to know what the total count was.
    All your comments are invalid:

    - OCT members are morons; they are doing far more damage to gun rights than they are helping.
    - The OCer is nothing more than an attention *****.
    - An OCer open carrying a rifle is only attempting to cause problems and is asking to get into trouble and/or asking for a confrontation with an LEO. This confrontation is strictly the OCers fault!
    - I can't remember: is this Snowboots or Fatty?
    - Just because you can doesn't mean you should - even if it is legal.
    - I support OCing but not OCT because they... uh.... OC. But I support OC!
    - The OCer is nothing more than an attention *****.

    These are all the things I've learned about this incident from the OC Fudds over on Arfcom. Did I miss anythi... oh wait, almost forgot:

    - The OCers is gonna get shot first. OK, now it's complete.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FTG-05 View Post
    All your comments are invalid:

    - OCT members are morons; they are doing far more damage to gun rights than they are helping.
    - The OCer is nothing more than an attention *****.
    - An OCer open carrying a rifle is only attempting to cause problems and is asking to get into trouble and/or asking for a confrontation with an LEO. This confrontation is strictly the OCers fault!
    - I can't remember: is this Snowboots or Fatty?
    - Just because you can doesn't mean you should - even if it is legal.
    - I support OCing but not OCT because they... uh.... OC. But I support OC!
    - The OCer is nothing more than an attention *****.

    These are all the things I've learned about this incident from the OC Fudds over on Arfcom. Did I miss anythi... oh wait, almost forgot:

    - The OCers is gonna get shot first. OK, now it's complete.


    Sounds like what the conceal only crowd says about us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinggabby View Post
    Sounds like what the conceal only crowd says about us.
    Well... yeah! It was meant as sarcasm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FTG-05 View Post
    All your comments are invalid:

    - OCT members are morons; they are doing far more damage to gun rights than they are helping.
    - The OCer is nothing more than an attention *****.
    - An OCer open carrying a rifle is only attempting to cause problems and is asking to get into trouble and/or asking for a confrontation with an LEO. This confrontation is strictly the OCers fault!
    - I can't remember: is this Snowboots or Fatty?
    - Just because you can doesn't mean you should - even if it is legal.
    - I support OCing but not OCT because they... uh.... OC. But I support OC!
    - The OCer is nothing more than an attention *****.

    These are all the things I've learned about this incident from the OC Fudds over on Arfcom. Did I miss anythi... oh wait, almost forgot:

    - The OCers is gonna get shot first. OK, now it's complete.


    I just got through reading self-proclaimed open carry advocates make some of these exact same arguments.

    Sometimes so-called gun rights supporters really disappoint, ya know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveInCO View Post
    Well... yeah! It was meant as sarcasm.
    Sorry about that. My sarcasm switch ( did not read it all ) got turned off. Please forgive me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinggabby View Post
    Sorry about that. My sarcasm switch ( did not read it all ) got turned off. Please forgive me.
    Absolutely nothing to forgive, now that you see it.

    Every once in a while someone's switch needs a good hard percussive smack to get back into operation, so I supply it. If it was overkill, my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveInCO View Post
    Absolutely nothing to forgive, now that you see it.

    Every once in a while someone's switch needs a good hard percussive smack to get back into operation, so I supply it. If it was overkill, my apologies.
    No worries .

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    UNLESS the law works differently in Texas, I am under NO OBLIGATION to prove I am lawful or even legal. It is the State per the judical branch via law enforcement officers and prosecution to PROVE that I am unlawful. At the scene to detain they must have a Reasonable Articulable Suspicion of my either having, presently, or about to be violating the law. And for those who have diffuculty with this concept--- IF HE DON'T KNOW ME FROM ADAM (or any other historical/ancient person HE CAN'T HAVE A REASONABLY ARTICULABLE SUSPICION that I or anyone else is, has, or is about to commit a crime simply by walking down the street with a lawfully possessed and carrying LEGAL TOOL for self defense.

    I only got through the first 2 1/2 mins of the video---- The OFFICER ain't a LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER but rather something very much despised with good reason, an OPINION ENFORCEMENT OFFICER!
    RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff. State View Post
    Grapeshot is a (--edited by Mod--) traitor to the people of this Nation.
    Oh dang guys watch out we have got a live one here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by J_dazzle23 View Post
    Oh dang guys watch out we have got a live one here...
    Not anymore we don't. Looks like he got the ban hammer right between the eyes.

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    I admire the way he kept his silence.

    I'm wonder if the whole "I support open carry" and "I'm one of the 3%" talk was a trick attempt to get him to surrender his rights.

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