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    USA Today Editorial - Guns on campus 2-25-15 won't prevent rape

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinio...-fox/23889451/

    Mr Fox offers this ridiculous argument:

    Would an aroused and inebriated brute then use his "just in case of emergency" gun to intimidate some non-consenting woman into bed? Submit or you're dead?
    I say:

    Would an aroused and inebriated Woman use her firearm to intimidate some non-consenting Man into bed? "Submit or I got yer gun right heah!"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick9 View Post
    Mr Fox offers this ridiculous argument:
    Mr. Fox's fallacy is assuming that a gun gives the inebriated brute any material advantage over the woman that he didn't have without the gun. To borrow from an online columnist:

    "The fact, politically incorrect or not, is that on average men are not somewhat stronger than women, but vastly stronger. I donít know whether women quite realize this. For example, if you are wrestling playfully with your husband or boyfriend, his chief concern wonít be winning but avoiding hurting you. Men donít shake hands with women as they do with men. They could hurt a womanís hand. Guys who have been in playground fights know that being eighty pounds lighter ends the fight in about the first three seconds.

    "Further, a rapist is likely to be perfectly willing to injure his victim. This gives him a near-absolute advantage."

    Simply put, a gun offers the typical campus rapist virtually zero extra advantage over his date that he didn't have with just his bare hands.

    To be fair, a gun offers the typical campus co-ed virtually zero benefit when confronted by a date rapist. When the victim is already drunk or stoned, or has a drink tainted with a date rape drug, or is even snuggling up or making out and the guy decides to go farther than she wanted to, odds of her having her gun within reach seem slim in most cases.

    But, a gun offers great advantage to the woman against a stranger rapists as she is walking alone across campus after dark. It offers her huge benefit when confronted with the ex-boyfriend or stranger stalker.

    And of course, most importantly, it is her (and his) constitutionally enumerated, natural/God-given/human right to have an effective means of self-defense if she so desires it. If she is old enough to join the military (or he to be drafted) then by what right does some taxpayer funded ivory tower educational elitists presume to deny her those rights? We might just as well have an argument about why college is no place for the free exercise of religion, for an expectation of privacy, or for voting.

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    A paid political announcement

    James Alan Fox is the Lipman Professor of Criminology, Law and Public Policy at Northeastern University and a member of the USA TODAY's Board of Contributors.
    I am responsible for my writing, not your understanding of it.

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    ^^ Well they need a better class of contributors. I think even the antis were laughing at his comments.

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    Thus, prohibiting college women from carrying guns on campus does not put them at greater risk.


    Please read closely and this nitwits premise evaporates as does the fog when the sun comes up.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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