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    atf backed off for now

    NOTICE TO THOSE COMMENTING ON THE ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITION EXEMPTION FRAMEWORK

    Thank you for your interest in ATF's proposed framework for determining whether certain projectiles are “primarily intended for sporting purposes” within the meaning of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(C). The informal comment period will close on Monday, March 16, 2015. ATF has already received more than 80,000 comments, which will be made publicly available as soon as practicable.

    Although ATF endeavored to create a proposal that reflected a good faith interpretation of the law and balanced the interests of law enforcement, industry, and sportsmen, the vast majority of the comments received to date are critical of the framework, and include issues that deserve further study. Accordingly, ATF will not at this time seek to issue a final framework. After the close of the comment period, ATF will process the comments received, further evaluate the issues raised therein, and provide additional open and transparent process (for example, through additional proposals and opportunities for comment) before proceeding with any framework.

    http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2015- ... ework.html
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    Notice to those commenting on the armor piercing ammunition exemption framework
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Notice to those commenting on the armor piercing ammunition exemption framework
    The exemption framework was more insidious than the outright ban on M855. It changes the way the ATF would review all future ammo and reduce the bar for the second clause of the statute from designed for handguns to can be used in handguns, in essence, in violation of the law. The whole letter is being dropped, but it's a bigger victory that the proposed exemption framework will be dropped than to have M855 retain its exemption.

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    http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/630650

    Dropped by the atf but picked up by our reps...

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    Quote Originally Posted by georg jetson View Post
    http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/630650

    Dropped by the atf but picked up by our reps...
    With 86% of all Americans supporting our right to keep and bear arms, the Democrats are doing a great job of making themselves look like fools before the majority of the American public. With some effort towards educating and a little luck, we can use their reactions against them in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by georg jetson View Post
    http://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/630650 Dropped by the atf but picked up by our reps...
    114th CONGRESS

    1st Session

    H. R. 1358

    To enact into law a framework for deciding whether certain projectiles are `primarily intended for sporting purposes' for purposes of determining whether the projectiles are armor piercing ammunition.

    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

    March 13, 2015

    Mr. ENGEL (for himself, Ms. CLARKE of New York, Mrs. WATSON COLEMAN, and Mrs. CAROLYN B. MALONEY of New York) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

    A BILL

    To enact into law a framework for deciding whether certain projectiles are `primarily intended for sporting purposes' for purposes of determining whether the projectiles are armor piercing ammunition.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

    SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

    This Act may be cited as the `Armor -Piercing Bullets Act of 2015'.

    SEC. 2. FRAMEWORK FOR DECIDING WHETHER CERTAIN PROJECTILES ARE `PRIMARILY INTENDED FOR SPORTING PURPOSES' FOR PURPOSES OF DETERMINING WHETHER THE PROJECTILES ARE ARMOR PIERCING AMMUNITION.

    Section 921(a)(17) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

    `(D)(i) For purposes of subparagraph (C), a .22 caliber projectile that otherwise would be armor piercing ammunition shall be considered to be primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes if the projectile weighs 40 grains or less and is loaded into a rimfire cartridge.

    `(ii)(I)(aa) Except as provided in clause (i), a projectile that otherwise would be armor piercing ammunition shall, for purposes of subparagraph (C), be considered to be primarily intended to be used for sporting purpose if the projectile is loaded into a cartridge for which the only handgun that is readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade is a single shot handgun, subject to subclause (II).

    `(bb) In subclause (aa), the term `single shot handgun' means a break-open or bolt action handgun that can accept only a single cartridge manually, and does not accept or use a magazine or other ammunition feeding device, but does not include a pocket pistol or derringer-type firearm.

    `(II) For purposes of subparagraph (C), the Attorney General may treat a projectile as not primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes if substantial evidence exists that the projectile is not primarily intended to be used for sporting purposes.'.
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    Huh,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    "For now."
    Keep that in mind. We still have 20 months 22!! months! of Dumbo to get through first!
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