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    Churchill Downs Carry

    Any idea of the carry rules at Churchill Downs?

    I'll be going to a Reunion there in May. I carry concealed and would like to know
    what if any restrictions they have.

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    http://www.churchilldowns.com/tickets/ticketing-policy

    "Churchill Downs is a privately owned facility and may refuse the admission of any patron for any reason, including failure to abide by its admission policy. All patrons are subject to a search of their person, packages and containers during admission. Patrons have the right to refuse to be searched, but they will not be allowed admission if they do not consent to the admission search or if they attempt to enter with any item not permitted by Churchill Downs. The admission fee of any patron who does not wish to be searched or comply with this admission policy will be refunded."

    "The following items may not be brought onto the premises: weapons (including concealed weapons), umbrellas are prohibited on Oaks, Derby and Breeders’ Cup days, missiles (or any item which may be used as such), thermoses, backpacks, luggage, duffel bags, wagons, balloons, grills, charcoal, glass, tents, alcohol or any substance which is prohibited by Kentucky or Federal Law. Attempts to bring them onto the premises will result in confiscation or refusal of access to the premises. This list is illustrative only. Other items may be prohibited as a condition of admission."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    Any idea of the carry rules at Churchill Downs?

    I'll be going to a Reunion there in May. I carry concealed and would like to know
    what if any restrictions they have.
    I wish I had a dime for every conceal carry person that comes to this open carry site looking for advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by self preservation View Post
    I wish I had a dime for every conceal carry person that comes to this open carry site looking for advice.
    We educate free and contribute to their knowledge. They will remember the courtesy and maybe OC one day.
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    Really nice comments. Are you so hung up on open carry that you have to piss off people who do both!
    Some places are simply not appropriate for open carry.

    Lets piss off the guy asking an honest question on a site that has a lot of knowledge
    and hope he doesn't come back to share his experiences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    Really nice comments. Are you so hung up on open carry that you have to piss off people who do both!
    Some places are simply not appropriate for open carry.

    Lets piss off the guy asking an honest question on a site that has a lot of knowledge
    and hope he doesn't come back to share his experiences.
    Which places would those be and why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    Are you so hung up on open carry that you have to piss off people who do both!
    Who is you? I practice both modes of carry.

    I, for one, am glad you're here. I hope you stay. You'll probably be happier, though, if you don't take every comment here personally.
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    Based on the number of folks who come here looking for information about things that are not directly related to Open Carrying (ranging from "Why was I denied when trying to purchase a firearm?" to "What are the rules about CCing at ___?" OCDO seems to have developed a reputation as a place where correct and useful information can be obtained.

    Of course I wish the CCers/NoCers would see the light and convert but as long as they remain polite and do not troll I'm happy to be part of a place that folks appear to respect and trust. Think about it - our correspondent had the option of uncounted scads of CC-specific sites to go to and post his query. But he chose oCDO.

    And yes, I have in the past (and most likely will in the future) remind folks coming to OCDO with questions about CC that the site is dedicated to open carrying - and then offer what I can to help guide them to an accurate answer to their CC-specific question.

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    No matter what the question snarky comments are not appropriate when some one asks
    a respectful question.
    My idea of when and when not to OC are all that matters TO ME.

    I have no problem with you making your own decision for your own reasons.

    Open Carry in a business suit is not the way I want to go!

    I'll find a better site now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    No matter what the question snarky comments are not appropriate when some one asks
    a respectful question.
    My idea of when and when not to OC are all that matters TO ME.

    I have no problem with you making your own decision for your own reasons.

    Open Carry in a business suit is not the way I want to go!

    I'll find a better site now.
    When you do, let us know - good luck in your quest for the perfect site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    No matter what the question snarky comments are not appropriate when some one asks
    a respectful question.
    My idea of when and when not to OC are all that matters TO ME.
    I have no problem with you making your own decision for your own reasons.
    Open Carry in a business suit is not the way I want to go!
    I'll find a better site now.
    but grape, et al., most are a not so ill humored ~ wow!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    --snipped--
    My idea of when and when not to OC are all that matters TO ME.
    Perhaps the OP forgets that this is a public forum; therefore, a comprehensive answer serves to benefit others.
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    This is only related in a very distant way, but people here are big-picture thinkers, so why not? Several years ago the city of Louisville passed a pretty strict "no smoking" law. They tried to sneak in ONE and only one exemption: Churchill Down racetrack. (No grandfathering for tobacco shops, etc. Just the big $$$$$$$ track.)

    Long story short that was not well received by the courts when challenged, the original ordinance had to be struck down and the whole thing rebooted.

    I'm not trying to veer off topic, like I said those of you here who are pretty swift on the uptake legal-eagle wise probably aren't surprised by that bit of legislative chicanery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    Really nice comments. Are you so hung up on open carry that you have to piss off people who do both!
    Some places are simply not appropriate for open carry.

    Lets piss off the guy asking an honest question on a site that has a lot of knowledge
    and hope he doesn't come back to share his experiences.
    Calm down Sensitive Sally. Most new guys get a little hassle thrown their way just to see what they are all about. You.....very thinned skin. But don't worry, if you stick around you will "thicken up." As far as that "lot of knowledge" and experiences that you have, we're all ears and we'd love to hear them. After all, that's how we learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    Yes, and they get an answer that they could have gotten for themselves in 45 seconds and are gone, never to be heard from again. Good to see you SP, you've been gone a while.
    I've been lurking. Just been a hectic time for me to be able to log in and join in on any conversations. P.s., thanks for the answer you gave me on my last PM question to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jebt View Post
    Are you so hung up on open carry that you have to piss off people who do both!
    If you got pissed off by anything that has been said in this thread, you're much too easily angered to carry a gun safely.

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    Since I'll be in Louisville in a few weeks, I'm checking up on any possible changes since my last trip, about 8 years ago. One interesting thing I noticed is that while "weapons (including knives)" are on the special expanded rules list for Derby and Oaks days (much larger attendance), there is no mention of firearms, or any type of weapons prohibition in the general information.

    I'd be surprised, but I'm wondering if anyone can confirm that they possibly allow legally carried firearms during non-peak times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    No. Firearms fall into the general category of "weapons".
    As I noted, there is NO (none, ZERO) mention of any type of weapons prohibitions , **EXCEPT** on Derby and Oaks days.

    Please see for yourself:
    https://www.churchilldowns.com/visit...ty-information

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    Quote Originally Posted by gnbrotz View Post
    As I noted, there is NO (none, ZERO) mention of any type of weapons prohibitions , **EXCEPT** on Derby and Oaks days.

    Please see for yourself:
    https://www.churchilldowns.com/visit...ty-information
    might i politely suggest you hone your manners as well as your internet skills:

    quote: The following items may not be brought onto the premises: weapons (including concealed weapons), missiles (or any item which may be used as such), thermoses, backpacks, luggage, duffel bags, wagons, balloons, grills, charcoal, glass, tents, alcohol or any substance which is prohibited by Kentucky or Federal Law. Attempts to bring them onto the premises will result in confiscation or refusal of access to the premises. This list is illustrative only. Other items may be prohibited as a condition of admission. unquote https://www.churchilldowns.com/ticke...cketing-policy

    i'm sorry was that a very muffled but humbled apology being muttered from PA or maybe it was the just the wind i heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    No. Firearms fall into the general category of "weapons" and are prohibited by Churchill Downs on a daily basis.
    They shoot horses don't they?
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