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    Exclamation [CALL TO ACTION] AB148, referred to Senate Judiciay, Unleash the dogs

    It is my pleasure to report to you that Assembly Bill 148 has cleared the Nevada Assembly and has now been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    We must make a continuous effort to urge Senator Greg Brower, Chairman, to schedule a hearing and work session on this bill. If his offices phone is not ringing non-stop with requests to hear this bill, we are not doing everything we can to pass this legislation Please contact his office:

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    Well Brower just killed SB-148, Constitutional Carry, by not letting it out of committee, so we'll have to see what kind of politics he'll be playing with this one, particularly when you consider the party line vote AB-148 got in the Assembly.

    If his loyalty is to Sandoval or some other type of sweetheart deal, this too will die a slow death in committee. We hammered his office with SB-143 and received nothing but lip service followed by a total mid-term abortion. His job was to get it to a vote and then pass it out of committee for the entire Senate to review. Apparently he felt compelled to do otherwise.

    It's not a government for the PEOPLE, it's a government for GREG BROWER's political career.

    He's taking his chairmanship right out of the pages of Harry Reid's playbook. RINO of the worst measure.

    We'll have to see who's pulling the strings this time around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_O View Post
    Well Brower just killed SB-148 [SB-143], Constitutional Carry, by not letting it out of committee, so we'll have to see what kind of politics he'll be playing with this one, particularly when you consider the party line vote AB-148 got in the Assembly.

    If his loyalty is to Sandoval or some other type of sweetheart deal, this [AB-148] too will die a slow death in committee. We hammered his office with SB-143 and received nothing but lip service followed by a total mid-term abortion. His job was to get it to a vote and then pass it out of committee for the entire Senate to review. Apparently he felt compelled to do otherwise.

    It's not a government for the PEOPLE, it's a government for GREG BROWER's political career.

    He's taking his chairmanship right out of the pages of Harry Reid's playbook. RINO of the worst measure.

    We'll have to see who's pulling the strings this time around.
    I'll not disagree.

    But perhaps - just maybe - one bright spot is the fact that SB-350 was introduced AND SB-350 got a waiver, meaning it is exempt from deadlines.

    IF AB-148 fails, SB-350 will still be in play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada carrier View Post
    It is my pleasure to report to you that Assembly Bill 148 has cleared the Nevada Assembly and has now been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

    We must make a continuous effort to urge Senator Greg Brower, Chairman, to schedule a hearing and work session on this bill. If his offices phone is not ringing non-stop with requests to hear this bill, we are not doing everything we can to pass this legislation Please contact his office:

    Senator Greg Brower
    775-684-1419
    Greg.Brower@sen.state.nv.us
    Call made and there is still a chance these pro gun bills will be scheduled. Please everyone make the call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonefishn View Post
    Call made and there is still a chance these pro gun bills will be scheduled. Please everyone make the call.
    I have contacted Senator Brower's office. In addition I have contacted my Senator asking him to contact Senator Brower and urge him to bring this to a vote.

    We would not likely be in this position if we didn't keep giving the Republidems the power they usurp.

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    The only thing they care about is keeping their seats.

    The only way to get their attention is to promise that, if they don't do what you're expecting, you will vote for someone else -- even a member of the opposite party.

    Then you have to DO it.

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    Although I wrote to every Republican state Senator about (6) weeks basically saying that I considered a NO vote on any PRO 2nd amendment "state treason" and vowed to never vote for them ever for ANYTHING, I didn't realize what a weasel Brower is. Although the below link is from a "Progressive" (Socialist under a different name) blog, it does show how he sucked up to the "tea party types" while running and praised them when others did and how he tried a run for Congress and NV attorney general. Because of term limits he is looking to the future. Trying to be a "moderate( (RINO) to go after some Dem votes when he tries to go national. He is a LOSER and I doubt he is going to change his mind.

    http://nvprogressive.blogspot.com/20...ips-flops.html

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    SFA letter of May 12, 2015 to Senator Brower, Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee:

    http://stillwaterfirearms.org/media/...May12_2015.pdf

    AB-148 will not be officially dead until COB Friday, May 15.

    It DOES look grim, but there is still a (snowball's) chance.

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    Nevada campus carry proposal brought back to life
    Posted May 13, 2015 - 2:31pm Updated May 13, 2015 - 8:59pm

    By SEAN WHALEY
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    CARSON CITY — A “campus carry” bill believed to be dead in the Senate will be amended into another Second Amendment measure on Friday, Assembly Judiciary Chairman Ira Hansen said Wednesday.

    Hansen said that because the Senate Judiciary Committee won’t hear Assembly Bill 148 that would allow those with concealed weapons permits to carry their weapons on college campuses, it will be amended into a Senate bill on the deadline day for committee action on most bills.

    Read entire article at:

    http://m.reviewjournal.com/news/neva...ught-back-life

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    I've been aware of this plan for a couple weeks now, but I had to keep it quiet until Assemblyman Hansen and Assemblywoman Fiore notified the caucus about their intent. More than one way to skin a cat indeed. And since Roberson is the Primary sponsor of SB175 it wouldn't be in his best interests to leave it twisting in the wind when it goes back to the senate floor for confirmation.
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    Yes, it seems we do have politicians that are willing to WORK to present bills the people are asking for. Good news, and I'm loving their strategy.
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    I've got to say, I'll admire it if it succeeds. Hell of a game of chicken, but what a way to play the game. Checkmate!
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    Why would they use this great tactic with 148 but not also do it with the CCW bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by garand_guy View Post
    I've got to say, I'll admire it if it succeeds. Hell of a game of chicken, but what a way to play the game. Checkmate!
    Perhaps "game playing" is not what we the citizens of the state want. If a bill passes in one house, the other house should be required to give it an up or down vote. Too much power rested in
    the hands of committee chairmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed2276 View Post
    Why would they use this great tactic with 148 but not also do it with the CCW bill?
    they didn't say AB148 would be the only thing amended into SB175.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Perhaps "game playing" is not what we the citizens of the state want. If a bill passes in one house, the other house should be required to give it an up or down vote. Too much power rested in the hands of committee chairmen.

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    Agreed. I've had second thoughts. This is setting the whole thing up for failure. Sandoval and Brower want this stuff to die. They won't respond to this game. Just politicians sacrificing our desires on their theatrical altar. Hansen's stunt will loose us the blue cards forever. Are their initiatives at the county/city level?

    Committees need to go away now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garand_guy View Post
    Agreed. I've had second thoughts. This is setting the whole thing up for failure. Sandoval and Brower want this stuff to die. They won't respond to this game. Just politicians sacrificing our desires on their theatrical altar. Hansen's stunt will loose us the blue cards forever. Are their initiatives at the county/city level?
    Currently I live up here in Reno, but I will be moving to Vegas in August for school, and I would be ecstatic if I don't have to go get blue cards. As much as I supported AB 148 and wrote in supporting it, I think I'd choose no blue cards over campus carry if I had to. But having both would be lovely

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    I'll be surprised if we get anything.

    Tell me again why we should vote for Republicans . . ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jagorilla View Post
    Currently I live up here in Reno, but I will be moving to Vegas in August for school, and I would be ecstatic if I don't have to go get blue cards. As much as I supported AB 148 and wrote in supporting it, I think I'd choose no blue cards over campus carry if I had to. But having both would be lovely
    Looks like Fiore and Hansen chose neither for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garand_guy View Post
    Looks like Fiore and Hansen chose neither for us.
    Fiore and Hansen are your friend. Senator Brower is NOT. Read and learn young man.

    http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/ne...-gun-amendment

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    Quote Originally Posted by garand_guy View Post
    Looks like Fiore and Hansen chose neither for us.

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    Open Carry Blue Card Burning Party, let the planning begin

    SB175 has passed the legislature, sadly, without the inclusion of campus carry. Nevertheless and assuming it is not vetoed by the governor, which I doubt will happen, The time has come for us to finally have a get together, celebrating our victory! I propose we gather at either Sunset Park or Exploration Park where we burn (or shred) our blue cards.

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    Let's not get the cart before the horse. Did the same "exact" bill pass the state Senate OR does it have to go back them for "reconciliation" before it goes to Governor ? Also Fiore says she has not given up on campus carry. She said she is going to attach it to another assembly bill, but is not saying which one so the (8) "Republicans(RINOs) who voted to kill Campus Carry in SB 175 can't plot strategy.

    One of the local(LV) conservative talk show hosts had on the owner(real CONSERVATIVE) of the largest FM station in Reno on yesterday and he already has backers plus himself who have the money to get a real Conservative and primary Senator Brower from Sparks who has been the main stumbling block with 2nd amendment issue in the Senate. He was all pro 2nd amendment until he got elected.

    Brower has delusions of grandeur in higher state positions and/or Fed level.

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    It looks like to me that campus carry is dead, the amendment to 175 having failed to pass. Looking at the Legislature website, 148 was attempted to be amended to 175 under Amendment Number 854. It went to committee in the Assembly and the amendment attempt was not approved.

    From the Legislature website:

    May 21, 2015

    Read second time.
    Amendment No. 854 not adopted.
    The next action was passage of 175, as amended by the Senate (Amendment number 136), and return from the Assembly to the Senate. :

    May 22, 2015

    Read third time. Passed. Title approved. (Yeas: 25, Nays: 17.) To Senate.
    So, at this point it looks like Constitutional and Campus carry are dead. What we will get is:

    1. Blue Card is gone.

    2. Explicit preemption of all firearms matters, except discharge, from counties, cities, and towns law-making.

    a. all county, city, and town ordinances except those relating to discharge, are null and void as of October 15, 2015.
    Nothing "grandfathered".
    b. Preemption would put an end to the 3 day wait for taking possession of your firearm that LV and NLV have been
    unlawfully using; wipe out NLV ordinance by which they can arrest you for OCing in your car without a CCW; and make
    null and void any park ordinance prohibiting possession at the park
    c. Gives gun owners teeth if County, LV or NLV try enforcing their 3 day wait, car OC without CCW, or any park ordinances
    on us by explicitly allowing us to sue the offending county, city, or town for and to recover damages and to get a
    declarative injunction against the offending party, prohibiting by court order any further enforcement of the offending
    ordinance.

    3. Gets rid of the Sheriff's organization as the arbiter of CCW reciprocity.

    4. Strengthens Castle Doctrine and extends it to vehicles, as well.
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    [QUOTE=3. Gets rid of the Sheriff's organization as the arbiter of CCW reciprocity.[/QUOTE]



    Unless I read it wrong, the S&C still have authority over what states are put on a list that will be used to determine if they meet NV requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Unless I read it wrong, the S&C still have authority over what states are put on a list that will be used to determine if they meet NV requirements.

    TBG
    You read it correctly. I misread it. I read the proposed amendment in the Legislative Counsel Digest portion of the amendment and it didn't mention the Sheriff's outfit, so I assumed that had been repealed. However, reading the actual text of the bill, the change was in how the Department specifically is to evaluate other states' requirements, while the approval by the Sheriff's organization is still intact.

    My bad; sorry po.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Unless I read it wrong, the S&C still have authority over what states are put on a list that will be used to determine if they meet NV requirements.

    TBG
    So I guess my money from Florida will still be banned. I'm never going to Vegas unless I can carry in a casino.

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