FreeInAZ
Regular Member
^^^ Lol "which gun goes with which outfit..." Now that's funny.
Congrats TX on your hard earned freedoms!
Congrats TX on your hard earned freedoms!
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Congrats texas on your new Open Carry
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nonameisgood
Regular Member
When in doubt, black goes with everything.
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SteveInCO
Regular Member
Indeed.
Though I suppose if one wants to be blingy the high polish CZ-75 might be in order.
I'm pulling this below entirely from another forum as it hasn't been posted here yet. Hopefully this will help to understand what the differences were. And kindly don't shoot the messenger.
The Huffines Amendment has been posted:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to a person’s possession of
a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a
shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun.
Dutton Amendment:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person
possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a
partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a shoulder or belt
holster.
The underlined portions are different words, while the bolded portions are the same words but in a different order.
The Huffines Amendment has been posted:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to a person’s possession of
a handgun license solely because the person is carrying in a
shoulder or belt holster a partially or wholly visible handgun.
Dutton Amendment:
Sec. 411.2049. CERTAIN INVESTIGATORY STOPS AND INQUIRIES
PROHIBITED. A peace officer may not make an investigatory stop or
other temporary detention to inquire as to whether a person
possesses a handgun license solely because the person is carrying a
partially or wholly visible handgun carried in a shoulder or belt
holster.
The underlined portions are different words, while the bolded portions are the same words but in a different order.
Official Analysis of the HB 910 with Senate Amendment
For those wanting the details, this may be of interest as it provides a line by line comparison of the entire bill:
www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/senateamendana/pdf/HB00910A.pdf#navpanes=0
For those wanting the details, this may be of interest as it provides a line by line comparison of the entire bill:
www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/senateamendana/pdf/HB00910A.pdf#navpanes=0
McClintock
Newbie
I know what forum
As for the congratulations on OC in Texas, let's not count our chickens before they hatch.
Ian
Lone Star Veteran
Seriously though, they can't copy and paste? Who dropped the ball on this one? Senator Huffines' office?
McClintock
Newbie
Well this issue has to do with wording differences in Huffines bill more than clerical error... though I don't believe that original error was an accident but I digress...
There is a school of thought that Huffine wants more of the spotlight and by first waiting to the last minute to introduce the change and then making sure the change has unique wording Huffine gets to boast of the accomplishment.
A dangerous game to play as time is running out FAST.
There is a school of thought that Huffine wants more of the spotlight and by first waiting to the last minute to introduce the change and then making sure the change has unique wording Huffine gets to boast of the accomplishment.
A dangerous game to play as time is running out FAST.
stealthyeliminator
Regular Member
How did he "wait till the last minute" ??? I was watching when 910 came up. Everything was moving along quickly until others, like Huffman, had a hissy fit over the amendment. In what way did Huffines delay anything? Heck, he even withdrew his previous amendment for constitutional carry to keep things moving faster.
thanks glockster, quite helpful reading it line by line/side by side...tis much appreciated.
ipse
I would believe that if he hadn't looked like such a completely and totally incompetent buffoon on the Senate floor. A child could have out-debated him, and he had an earpiece with someone parroting his words to him no less!
nonameisgood
Regular Member
I would believe that if he hadn't looked like such a completely and totally incompetent buffoon on the Senate floor. A child could have out-debated him, and he had an earpiece with someone parroting his words to him no less!
The Huffines Whisperer was Royse West (D-Dallas) who demonstrated that, while I don't agreed with his politics, he is a good lawyer and competent statesman. West and Ellis (D-Houston), both anti-gun, said they would vote for the amendment. They were acutely aware that the bill was going to pass and the protection against unwarranted stops was very important. I am not sure why Estes stripped the Dutton amendment, but imagine it was "for the cops". I can't think of a worse reason since restraint on police/executive exercise of power is an important component of all legislation.
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NomadMan
New member
I also wanted to give my congratulations to Texas and all the hard work some activists did to make this happen.
Next stop, Constitutional Carry.
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NomadMan
New member
All that is left is for the house to sign off on the changes and the governor to sign it, which he already said he would. Am o missing something?
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Ian
Lone Star Veteran
Ever heard the saying don't count your chickens till they hatch? It's still not a done deal yet. Given the time left right now, we can't assume anything.
After watching SB 11 slowly, painfully slipping away...I see more of the same for HB 910. And one important point is that those in the know say that we should not assume that the Governor will sign the bill as amended.
Frankly, it seems to me to be barely a coin toss as to whether OC passes.
Frankly, it seems to me to be barely a coin toss as to whether OC passes.
77zach
Regular Member
Who are these mystery people in the know?
stealthyeliminator
Regular Member
No mystery if you cruise other forum boards.
Really?
What is the purpose of this non-answer?