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    Milwaukee Mayor Blames Gov. Walker for Uptick in Gun Violence

    Is Barrett delusional or something? Act 35 has been law for 3.5 years and we haven't see any increase in violent crimes across WI except for Milwaukee. Maybe, just maybe the mayor should push the DA to pursue tougher sentences for criminals instead of letting them get off so easily?

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    I wonder... what is the actual percentage of these crimes committed by first time offender/legal gun owners and what percentage was committed by repeat offenders or people not permitted to own a gun.
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    And David Clarke once again rightly called horse-squeeze on an anti-gun politicians made up "facts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by deepdiver View Post
    And David Clarke once again rightly called horse-squeeze on an anti-gun politicians made up "facts".
    Clarke blathers on, but he has cut deputies on the streets by 66% since he took over. Less than 2% of all criminal prosecutions in Milwaukee County come from the Sheriffs Office. Clarke is all talk and no action.

    The problem with the DA is lower level crimes continue to be plead to an ordinance violation. Disorderly Conduct for example. Instead of having a violator spend 3 months imprisoned and paying a huge fine [thousands] that state statute calls for, they plead it down to a ticket and a $250 fine. The violator suffers little consequence for his actions and keeps going in/out of the system until he graduates to more serious crimes of armed robbery, battery, murder, etc.. Charging/convicting for the state crimes would cost more up front, but in the long run it would actually save tax payers money.

    The second problem are the judges that sit on the bench. When these criminals do get charged with crimes they get lenient sentences instead of getting hammered with time that means something. These thugs then go in and out of the system until they graduate to more serious crimes and useless door knobs like Barrett blame inanimate objects. It's a vicious, vicious circle that would be funny if it weren't so horrifying.

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    Barrett blames concealed carry, and yet the crime that preceded his spew was committed by a felon convicted of bank robbery who only served a year and a half of his sentence and was turned loose on the public again.

    It seems like every time one of these horrendous events occurs it is usually committed by someone who should still be behind bars, but was sent back to prey on the public early.

    So who should Barrett be angry with?

    Offenders like this and crimes like we have happening every week in not just Milwaukee, but all over (see recent violent crimes in just the last few weeks in Madison, Sheboygan, Menomonee Falls for example) are THE REASON that over a quarter of a million people have gotten their concealed carry license in Wisconsin so far.

    But Barrett likes his head in the sand... or Bloomberg's behind better than in the real world.

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    If the next governor is a Democrat he will use Milwaukee as an example to why we should repeal ACT-35. They cannot tell the difference between us and the criminals. If you own a gun and are law abiding, you are a criminal or soon going to be criminal. We should change the name to little Chicago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    If the next governor is a Democrat he will use Milwaukee as an example to why we should repeal ACT-35. They cannot tell the difference between us and the criminals. If you own a gun and are law abiding, you are a criminal or soon going to be criminal. We should change the name to little Chicago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkbites View Post
    Clarke blathers on, but he has cut deputies on the streets by 66% since he took over. Less than 2% of all criminal prosecutions in Milwaukee County come from the Sheriffs Office. Clarke is all talk and no action.

    The problem with the DA is lower level crimes continue to be plead to an ordinance violation. Disorderly Conduct for example. Instead of having a violator spend 3 months imprisoned and paying a huge fine [thousands] that state statute calls for, they plead it down to a ticket and a $250 fine. The violator suffers little consequence for his actions and keeps going in/out of the system until he graduates to more serious crimes of armed robbery, battery, murder, etc.. Charging/convicting for the state crimes would cost more up front, but in the long run it would actually save tax payers money.

    The second problem are the judges that sit on the bench. When these criminals do get charged with crimes they get lenient sentences instead of getting hammered with time that means something. These thugs then go in and out of the system until they graduate to more serious crimes and useless door knobs like Barrett blame inanimate objects. It's a vicious, vicious circle that would be funny if it weren't so horrifying.
    But isn't that Clarke's point - citizens need to defend themselves? It seems he supports the "a cop won't fit in my holster and is minutes away when I have seconds" mantra.

    I'm obviously not local, but that is the image he portrays in the MSM. Your comments make it sound like he is correct and is fighting an overly liberal bench that fails to punish the criminals by his encouraging citizens to take measure and defend themselves from the vagaries of an overly liberal revolving door judicial system. But then you seem derisive of his policies.

    What am I missing from the local perspective? (I ask, because only seeing him as a commentator I have come to very much respect him and his positions and want to be corrected if I am being suckered by the media)
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    Quote Originally Posted by deepdiver View Post
    What am I missing from the local perspective?
    The local perspective, unfortunately, is to fall for his banter. The people like how he criticizes other pols so they think he's their populace hero.

    But as Chief Law Enforcement Officer Clarke has done little to tackle the problems. He's become little more than a warden, the majority of his staff being unsworn correctional officers. He's cut street deputies by almost 600 members. The patrol and vice sectors are almost non-existent. The duties in those divisions are not the responsibility of the average citizen. They are services the average citizen pays taxes for and is not receiving.

    Only 2% of all criminal prosecutions in Milwaukee County come from the Sheriffs Office, and many of those originate from crimes committed by inmates at the jail. Clarke is a poor manager, a bad administrator, and a weak example of what a CLEO should be. But he prattles on and people think he's this tough Sheriff Joe type. But he's all talk and no action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkbites View Post
    The local perspective, unfortunately, is to fall for his banter. The people like how he criticizes other pols so they think he's their populace hero.

    But as Chief Law Enforcement Officer Clarke has done little to tackle the problems. He's become little more than a warden, the majority of his staff being unsworn correctional officers. He's cut street deputies by almost 600 members. The patrol and vice sectors are almost non-existent. The duties in those divisions are not the responsibility of the average citizen. They are services the average citizen pays taxes for and is not receiving.

    Only 2% of all criminal prosecutions in Milwaukee County come from the Sheriffs Office, and many of those originate from crimes committed by inmates at the jail. Clarke is a poor manager, a bad administrator, and a weak example of what a CLEO should be. But he prattles on and people think he's this tough Sheriff Joe type. But he's all talk and no action.
    Thank you for the perspective.
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    Clarke submits a budget, but he does not make the final approval. If he is given only so much money to work with, where is he supposed to get the extra money to pay the deputies? Sell cookies? Maybe a garage sale? Think what you want, this guy has his head on straight, plain and simple. He wants people to take responsibility for their own safety and not rely on a the predominant liberal socialist opinion that the government is there to protect you. It is not.

    I live in a large county where you have a better chance of seeing bigfoot than a deputy, so you have to figure on protecting yourself. We don't blame the sheriff... there's just not enough money to go around.

    I suspect if Milwaukee County ad a lib for a sheriff, it would be nothing short of a police state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duckdog View Post
    Clarke submits a budget, but he does not make the final approval. If he is given only so much money to work with, where is he supposed to get the extra money to pay the deputies? Sell cookies? Maybe a garage sale? Think what you want, this guy has his head on straight, plain and simple. He wants people to take responsibility for their own safety and not rely on a the predominant liberal socialist opinion that the government is there to protect you. It is not.

    I live in a large county where you have a better chance of seeing bigfoot than a deputy, so you have to figure on protecting yourself. We don't blame the sheriff... there's just not enough money to go around.

    I suspect if Milwaukee County ad a lib for a sheriff, it would be nothing short of a police state.
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    Once again, Doug talking with himself...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    + many. Mee too!
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    This type of malfunction/s past or present may be the reason why crime is so high there. Me thinks the cat is now out of the bag.

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