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    Nationwide crime clearance drops to 64% from 90% as cops struggle with technology.

    Cops nationwide struggle to solve murders, as case clearance rate drops to 64 percent
    The Department of Justice is tapping six cities to take part in a grant program dubbed the “Homicide Investigation Enhancement, Training and Technical Assistance Project,” designed to improve some of the processes involved in solving violent crimes and identify best practices that can be shared from one community to another.

    The goal is to help improve the murder clearance rate, and the program is kicking off within a month, with Baltimore being the first city selected to participate.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...estigation-ta/

    I've already forwarded my recommendation for Milwaukee to be a participant.
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    I skimmed the article. I noticed no mention of why the federal interest in local law enforcement.

    Looks to me like the fedgov trying to spread its tentacles deeper into law enforcement at the state level. They've already got fusion centers or whatever they're called. Now they're spreading further.

    There is just no federal interest in state and local law enforcement except cooperation. So, what gives?
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    Same as for education. There is no federal or constitutional book with education until the institution accepts federal money, then the hump will soon follow the nosy nose. See Hillsdale College that has never allowed the nosy feds.

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    “The tasks are further complicated because they must meet a range of legal standards, conform to scientific integrity for later forensic analysis or require dealing with challenging human relationships. Other tasks are influenced by external pressures — such as the community or elected officials — to ensure that the tasks are performed quickly, accurately and successfully,” he said.
    Asking the feds to conform to scientific integrity...

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-repo...reds-of-cases/

    Just the first listing after a Google search. https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...es+in+evidence

    He said prosecutors nowadays demand that police deliver “open-and-shut cases” that will lead to quick plea bargains and/or a high conviction rate for the district attorney’s office. That number — often cited when district attorneys As run for reelection in those jurisdictions where it’s an elected office — reflects only verdicts in cleared cases.

    Mr. Geberth said he thinks that standard sought by prosecutors is too high.
    Let us not demand that only the clearly guilty folks be the only ones subject to possibly the ultimate punishment in a capital crime...no, let us not demand that.

    How about this, dedicate your precious and limited resources to catching real bad guys instead of hassling LACs for behavior that is legal in just about every other state.
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    Science in the broadest sense is charged with lack of integrity. Scientific integrity is a very high standard. Karl Popper drew a bright line in The Logic of Scientific Discovery with his falsification as demarcation of science from nonscience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    I skimmed the article. I noticed no mention of why the federal interest in local law enforcement.
    Could be any number of reasons.

    If I recall, the feds first got involved in local law enforcement during the civil rights movement when some localities were not just failing to protect the basic rights of racial minorities, but in some cases were actively protecting the criminals. A quick kangaroo court with a not-guilty verdict on the charge of murder gives the members of the lynch mob pretty good protections legally doesn't it? Simply declining to investigate sufficiently to bring any charges against those who are guilty is less sure, but a lot easier. And if you can peg a rape on some illiterate racial minority and thus "close the case" there is a lot of reason not to investigate further, perhaps finding out the real perpetrator was well connected in some way.

    On the flip side, national media makes a lot of people believe that crime is a national problem.

    And of course...

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    Looks to me like the fedgov trying to spread its tentacles deeper into law enforcement at the state level.
    It could well be this.

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    There is just no federal interest in state and local law enforcement except cooperation. So, what gives?
    I suspect it is a case of the feds extending their control and influence. But let's be accurate, some of the ugliness of race issues in this nation make clear that there is a certain federal interest in State and local law enforcement. Under the 14th amendment, when the States fail to protect citizens' rights, congress/the feds have the constitutional authority to pass laws and step in.

    Indeed, I wish they would do just that for those States that continue to infringe our RKBA in various ways. Congress should be passing laws preventing the States (and DC) and territories from infringing our RKBA. I'm a huge fan of federalism, of local diversity of laws and culture....but within the limits of the BoR and other enumerated rights. For better or worse, everyone 18 and older gets to vote. No slavery. Everyone gets freedom of religion, of the press, and of assembly; access to an attorney, and so on. The federal constitution sets some minimum threshold that must be respected. If a State wants to go further, so be it. But congress should be protecting citizens from having their rights infringed by the States, while the States should stand as a buffer between the power of the federal government and their own citizens. Separation of powers is not just 3 co-equal branches, but also the division between federal and State power.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Let us not demand that only the clearly guilty folks be the only ones subject to possibly the ultimate punishment in a capital crime...no, let us not demand that.
    One of the best things about capital punishment, IMO, is that it reminds us of what it means to convict a man for a crime. My preferred solution to avoiding wrongfully executing anyone is to avoid wrongfully convicting anyone in the first place. I sense among some a sense that it is ok to lock up those where there is enough doubt about guilt that they would not be willing to execute. If a jury is not sure enough of guilt to execute, they should not be convicting, IMO.

    Obviously, most crimes are not capital. But I think the same standard of evidence for guilt should be applied: proof beyond a reasonable doubt. If there is no reasonable doubt, then the alleged conduct took place.

    We can then move on to whether the law is offensive, being misapplied in the case at hand, or whether some bizarre circumstance is at play that would warrant jury nullification. But lacking these, proof beyond a reasonable doubt is proof beyond a reasonable doubt and should be the standard for conviction whether we are talking about a parking ticket or a serial killer.

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    How about this, dedicate your precious and limited resources to catching real bad guys instead of hassling LACs for behavior that is legal in just about every other state.
    As a great respecter of federalism, I have no problem if the laws and cultures differ from one State to another, so long as constitutionally enumerated rights are respected. At one time, casino gambling was legal in only one or two States. Today, it is legal in quite a few more than that, and on Indian Reservations within many additional States. Only two States continue to ban all forms of gambling: Utah & Hawaii and both should continue to be free to ban that conduct so long as their citizens so choose. In a similar note, alcohol use is legal in most of the nation. If a few counties want to ban it, so be it. I'm a fan of local control and there is no enumerated right to either gamble or to consume alcohol recreationally.

    A little more local diversity would greatly reduce conflict in this nation, I think.

    Of course, RKBA is an enumerated right in the federal constitution and so should be afforded some minimum level of respect/protection nationwide. Whatever level we might set, we would find at least some States below that level and needing to repeal some laws so as to better respect RKBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    One of the best things about capital punishment, IMO, is that it reminds us of what it means to convict a man for a crime....
    I could not agree with this any more than if I made this comment...though, I would start with the cops before we move on to prosecutors/judges/juries. One of my signature lines is quite applicable to your point. +1 Sir.

    As a great respecter of federalism, I have no problem if the laws and cultures differ from one State to another, so long as constitutionally enumerated rights are respected. ...

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    Just a nit, but a important nit, the state may not ban the lawful and peaceful consumption, only the sale...dry counties, sales on Sunday (SC ). Heck, they can't even ban a drunkard, a loose skirt chaser, from getting in his cups again.

    Again, well stated. +1 Sir.
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    Maybe if the states weren't sending so much money to the feds for these programs, they'd have more resources to handle it themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Maybe if the states weren't sending so much money to the feds for these programs, they'd have more resources to handle it themselves.
    Hey! What an idea!
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