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    AK folding length- is my rifle considered a pistol?

    Hello! I'm hoping this question is in the right place. I live in Wisconsin btw.

    I just purchased an AK rifle online, with a folding stock. It has a muzzle brake.

    Here are the measurements
    Total Length (with muzzle brake): 937 mm (36 7/8 in.)
    • Folded Length (with muzzle brake): 695 mm (27 3/8 in.)
    • Barrel Length: 415 mm (16 1/4 in.)

    I got concerned about the folded length, reading from a non credible source on a forum, that if your folding rifle is 30" or under in the folded position (In WISCONSIN), it is registered as pistol. I thought this was just Michigan. And even in MI, the length went down to 26. Even though folded it is 27 3/8, does it not include the muzzle brake ?

    Why am I worried? Because i'm 19. I wouldn't want to get to my ffl to pick it up and be unable to. I did talk to my ffl on the phone and I was told I'm in the clear, but I don't want there to be any unknown restrictions. Not that I don't trust the ffl or anything.


    Thank you so much.
    Last edited by kri; 04-29-2015 at 11:42 PM.

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    Wouldn't this apply?
    WISCONSIN:
    941.28 Possession of short-barreled shotgun or short-barreled rifle.
    (1) In this section:
    (a) "Rifle" means a firearm designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder or hip and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of a propellant in a metallic cartridge to fire through a rifled barrel a single projectile for each pull of the trigger.
    (b) "Short-barreled rifle" means a rifle having one or more barrels having a length of less than 16 inches measured from closed breech or bolt face to muzzle or a rifle having an overall length of less than 26 inches.
    >> If the muzzle brake is removable, the length is measured with it removed. And even so only two* states measure in the folded position. Federally, rifles are measured as rifles, with the stock unfolded/extended to firing position. < <

    MICHIGAN
    750.222 Definitions.
    As used in this chapter:
    ...
    (e) "Pistol" means a loaded or unloaded firearm that is 26 inches or less in length, or a loaded or unloaded firearm that by its construction and appearance conceals itself as a firearm.
    * Per Wikipedia, those two states are California and Michigan.
    Last edited by Fallschirmjäger; 04-30-2015 at 12:55 AM.

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    When your Wisconsin FFL dealer fills out the 4473 paperwork, he will list the firearm as a handgun, rifle, or 'other'. He won't be able to transfer a pistol or 'other' to you, so if it's listed as a rifle and he's checked your ID/age you should be good to go, Federally.

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    Thanks Fallschirmjäger ! I guess my main question was if WI is one of those states that measure with the stock folded. That clears it up!

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