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    Alcoholic Beverage Control Enforcement Expert Review Panel -- First Meeting May 4

    The following is the list of panel members. Do we have any friends on the panel? Any enemies?

    Governor McAuliffe Announces Administration Appointments
    The following individuals will serve on the Expert Review Panel established under Governor McAuliffe’s Executive Order Number 40 for Improving ABC Law Enforcement:

    Chairman for the Expert Review Panel
    Brian Moran, Secretary of Public Safety and Homeland Security

    Members of the Expert Review Panel
    Travis Hill, Chief Operating Officer for the Virginia Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
    Ryant Washington, Special Policy Advisor on Law Enforcement for the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
    Fran Ecker, Director of the Department of Criminal Justice Services
    Wesley Reed, Sheriff of Prince Edward County
    Donald Goodman, Chief of Police for the City of Radford
    Kevin Foust, Chief of Police at Virginia Tech
    Michael Herring, Commonwealth’s Attorney for the City of Richmond
    Steven Flaherty, Superintendent of the Virginia State Police
    Robert Archer, President and Chief Executive Officer for Blue Ridge Beverage
    Hayes Humphreys, Chief Operating Officer for Devil’s Backbone
    Laura Wood Habr, Co-Owner of Croc’s Restaurant
    Paige Allen Hawkins, Substance Abuse Prevention Specialist at James Madison University
    Christopher Konschak, Manager at Virginia Mothers Against Drunk Driving
    Kurt Erickson, President at Washington Regional Alcohol Prevention
    Abraham Axler, President at University of Virginia Student Council
    Christopher Jones, Mayor of the City of Harrisonburg
    Mamie Locke, Virginia State Senator, 2nd District, Hampton
    Ryan McDougle, Virginia State Senator, 4th District, Hanover
    David Albo, Virginia State Delegate, 42nd District, Fairfax

    The first meeting of the Expert Review Panel will be held on May 4, 2015, in the Virginia State Capitol, Senate Room 3, from 2:00 – 5:00 p.m.
    The time has changed to 1:00 PM.

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    I don't know about the restaurant owners but the rest aren't all that friendly. McDougle claims to be pro gun, yadda,yadda,yadda....but he's pretty much two faced.

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    Mamie Locke is about as anti-liberty and anti gun as a person can get.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Chairman for the Expert Review Panel
    Brian Moran, Secretary of Public Safety and Homeland Security - NOT

    Members of the Expert Review Panel
    Travis Hill, Chief Operating Officer for the Virginia Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control - NOT
    Ryant Washington, Special Policy Advisor on Law Enforcement for the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control - NOT
    Fran Ecker, Director of the Department of Criminal Justice Services -NOT
    Wesley Reed, Sheriff of Prince Edward County - NOT
    Donald Goodman, Chief of Police for the City of Radford - NOT
    Kevin Foust, Chief of Police at Virginia Tech - DO YOU EVEN HAVE TO ASK?
    Michael Herring, Commonwealth’s Attorney for the City of Richmond - NOT
    Steven Flaherty, Superintendent of the Virginia State Police - NOT
    Robert Archer, President and Chief Executive Officer for Blue Ridge Beverage - UNK
    Hayes Humphreys, Chief Operating Officer for Devil’s Backbone - probably NOT
    Laura Wood Habr, Co-Owner of Croc’s Restaurant - probably NOT
    Paige Allen Hawkins, Substance Abuse Prevention Specialist at James Madison University - NOT
    Christopher Konschak, Manager at Virginia Mothers Against Drunk Driving - NOT
    Kurt Erickson, President at Washington Regional Alcohol Prevention - NOT
    Abraham Axler, President at University of Virginia Student Council - NOT
    Christopher Jones, Mayor of the City of Harrisonburg - NOT
    Mamie Locke, Virginia State Senator, 2nd District, Hampton - NOT
    Ryan McDougle, Virginia State Senator, 4th District, Hanover - NOT?
    David Albo, Virginia State Delegate, 42nd District, Fairfax - OK to YES

    So it looks like not one that can be counted on as gun-friendly (not opposed to guns/gun stuff) down the line.

    Two that are sympathetic.

    The rest of the deck looks stacked against the very idea of guns (except for The Only Ones).

    NBC12 TV is running an expose on how ABC treats its own. http://www.nbc12.com/story/28936119/...ing-conditions Pretty much sounds like working for Stalin 1918-1927 (not sure if you will go home alive, or even if all records of your existence will be disappeared).

    stay safe.
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    It occurs to me there are a few important people missing from that panel.

    Jack Daniels
    Jim Beam
    J. P. Wiser
    Johnny Walker
    Henry Morgan, Capt.

    My goodness, how can you have an alcohol control panel without their input?

    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Chairman for the Expert Review Panel
    Brian Moran, Secretary of Public Safety and Homeland Security - NOT

    Members of the Expert Review Panel
    Travis Hill, Chief Operating Officer for the Virginia Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control - NOT
    Ryant Washington, Special Policy Advisor on Law Enforcement for the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control - NOT
    Fran Ecker, Director of the Department of Criminal Justice Services -NOT
    Wesley Reed, Sheriff of Prince Edward County - NOT
    Donald Goodman, Chief of Police for the City of Radford - NOT
    Kevin Foust, Chief of Police at Virginia Tech - DO YOU EVEN HAVE TO ASK?
    Michael Herring, Commonwealth’s Attorney for the City of Richmond - NOT
    Steven Flaherty, Superintendent of the Virginia State Police - NOT
    Robert Archer, President and Chief Executive Officer for Blue Ridge Beverage - UNK
    Hayes Humphreys, Chief Operating Officer for Devil’s Backbone - probably NOT
    Laura Wood Habr, Co-Owner of Croc’s Restaurant - probably NOT
    Paige Allen Hawkins, Substance Abuse Prevention Specialist at James Madison University - NOT
    Christopher Konschak, Manager at Virginia Mothers Against Drunk Driving - NOT
    Kurt Erickson, President at Washington Regional Alcohol Prevention - NOT
    Abraham Axler, President at University of Virginia Student Council - NOT
    Christopher Jones, Mayor of the City of Harrisonburg - NOT
    Mamie Locke, Virginia State Senator, 2nd District, Hampton - NOT
    Ryan McDougle, Virginia State Senator, 4th District, Hanover - NOT?
    David Albo, Virginia State Delegate, 42nd District, Fairfax - OK to YES

    So it looks like not one that can be counted on as gun-friendly (not opposed to guns/gun stuff) down the line.

    Two that are sympathetic.

    The rest of the deck looks stacked against the very idea of guns (except for The Only Ones).

    NBC12 TV is running an expose on how ABC treats its own. http://www.nbc12.com/story/28936119/...ing-conditions Pretty much sounds like working for Stalin 1918-1927 (not sure if you will go home alive, or even if all records of your existence will be disappeared).

    stay safe.
    Gun unfriendly folks on a panel to review the ABC's use of armed police to enforce ABC regulations? Would that sentiment imply a hope that the panel recommends that the ABC disarm it agents?

    I don't think their "gun-unfriendly" attitude applies to law enforcement. It only applies to us mere mortals. Or in Mamie Locke's case, those of us (with scholarly intent?) who might choose to enter a library.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    Gun unfriendly folks on a panel to review the ABC's use of armed police to enforce ABC regulations? Would that sentiment imply a hope that the panel recommends that the ABC disarm it agents?

    I don't think their "gun-unfriendly" attitude applies to law enforcement. It only applies to us mere mortals. Or in Mamie Locke's case, those of us (with scholarly intent?) who might choose to enter a library.
    Gun unfriendly=Rights unfriendly
    Translation....the cop is never wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    ....the cop is never wrong
    I didn't know that was ever in question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    It occurs to me there are a few important people missing from that panel.

    Jack Daniels
    Jim Beam
    J. P. Wiser
    Johnny Walker
    Henry Morgan, Capt.

    My goodness, how can you have an alcohol control panel without their input?

    Also the esteemed Mr. Jameson, I might add.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    Gun unfriendly folks on a panel to review the ABC's use of armed police to enforce ABC regulations? Would that sentiment imply a hope that the panel recommends that the ABC disarm it agents?

    I don't think their "gun-unfriendly" attitude applies to law enforcement. It only applies to us mere mortals. Or in Mamie Locke's case, those of us (with scholarly intent?) who might choose to enter a library.
    <emphasis mine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    It occurs to me there are a few important people missing from that panel.

    Jack Daniels
    Jim Beam
    J. P. Wiser
    Johnny Walker
    Henry Morgan, Capt.

    My goodness, how can you have an alcohol control panel without their input?

    There is onehellofa railroad man missing too.
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    Experts????

    Yes, there are a few with enough experience to be called experts. Some are just plain clueless. None are what I would call friends.

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    ABC should be disbanded. It's nothing more than a bunch of cretinous parasites, with no purpose except self-justification and no function except self-gratification.

    Drawing guns over a patently non-violent misdemeanor? Add "criminals" to the above.

    And why in hell is underage possession of alcohol a class 1 misdemeanor anyway? Talk about absurd and egregious abuse of legislative "authority". That should be a "class 1 felony".
    Last edited by marshaul; 05-02-2015 at 04:52 AM.

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    among the high titled folks listed how does Mother against Drunk Driving rate a seat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrearick View Post
    among the high titled folks listed how does Mother against Drunk Driving rate a seat?
    They are experts in the eyes of the uniformed AND fit the guvmint's agenda.
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