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    Capitol Police Left Guns in Bathrooms (Video) RollCall.com

    When a member of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s security detail left his Glock and magazine stuffed in the toilet seat cover holder of a Capitol Visitor Center bathroom stall, a CVC worker found the gun, according to a source familiar with the Jan. 29 incident and two other disturbing instances when Capitol Police left loaded firearms in problematic places.

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    “Each disciplinary matter is thoroughly investigated and reviewed, employees are held accountable for their conduct, and they are provided due process in adjudicating these matters,” she said. “Depending on the nature and seriousness of the violation, an employee’s record, and other required considerations, an appropriate penalty is applied, up to and including termination of employment. As a matter of policy, the Department does not routinely discuss internal personnel matters, in order to maintain the integrity of the Department.”

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    Kinda fun when government and anti-gunners reap the rewards of their own arguments. Guns are so evil, if somebody accidentally leaves one laying around, there is reason to apply disciplinary penalties.

    What ever happened to, "Hey, Joe. Somebody left this gun in the bathroom. If he comes back to get it, tell him he owes me a malted."

    What's next? Hanging people who leave their phone behind because it can be used to take pictures or record people in all-party consent states?
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    Woman who left gun in [Wisconsin] church [bathroom] beats charge for second time

    For the second time, an Oconomowoc woman has beaten criminal charges filed after she left her loaded handgun in a Brookfield church last year. Susan Hitchler, 67, had been attending an adult Bible study group at Elmbrook Church in March when she forgot the weapon in the women's restroom. No one else saw the gun until a janitor discovered it and turned it over to security at Elmbrook Church.

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/w...298559741.html

    Elmbrook is a non-denominational mega-"church" (yep, them's scare-quotes). Don't miss the comments.

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    I've carried pretty much daily for about 8 years. Never forgot my sidearm somewhere such as a bathroom. I just don't understand how someone does that...

    This is probably one of the few things about guns someone who doesn't carry finds easier to understand than someone who does.
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    standard tactic to stick it in the holder when you carry and have to poop and don't want your firearm laying on the ground, where it could be snatchable by someone in the next stall or causing an AD when your service firearm slips off with your pants.

    forgetting you put it in the seat cover holder is a completely different perspective of inattentiveness, one I have never heard about.

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    LOL I never forgot it dropped into the crotch of my skivvies and trousers.
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    Sternly worded Post-it note, nothing more.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

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    yeah, ive carried for years and never left but gun in a restroom and Im not even a "professional". I can understand the predicament of not having anywhere to set it but in high LEO use areas why dont they just add a gun shelf or belt rack to the stalls?

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    Better question. Why are they so concerned with messing up the finish of a government gun? It's not like they own it, or paid for it out of their own pocket.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    If I found that service pistol in the bathroom, well lets just say it would never be seen again. <--This comment is completely hypothetical and in no way represents my past, present, or future actions in this or similar situations that may or may not occur during my lifetime.
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    Ms Hitchler could consider a surplus military or police firearm with a lanyard ring. She could tie it to her pretty little self and it would go with her no matter what.

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