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    Open Carry of Firearms, Things to Consider

    "Open Carry Is Your Right. It is also a disastrous mistake, says Paul Huebl." - LewRockwell.com

    Open Carry of Firearms, Things to Consider
    By Paul Huebl
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    http://www.crimefilenews.com/2015/06...things-to.html

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    Thanks for posting this poorly constructed piece of conjecture. Thankfully not many comments & some are made by rational people with the ability to think critically.
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    Comments are just as stupid as the so call article. It still amazes me how people keep spewing the same crap from their mouths. And sad that people listen to them without researching it for themselves.

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    High hopes of something new have been cruelly crushed.

    I say we start a drinking game - every time you read one of the tried-and-not-true "reasons" to not open carry you have to take a drink. That way by the end of the first paragraph you should be sufficiently anesthetized to not need to apply duct tape.

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    WTF is Huebl?

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...estigator.html

    Whitney Houston was murdered and new evidence – caught on video – proves it, says a top Hollywood private investigator who is turning all of his material over to the FBI, according to a new report.

    Paul Huebl also says the superstar singer’s killers are caught on tape. “I have evidence that points to Whitney being a victim of a high powered drug dealers who sent thugs to collect a huge debt she owed for drugs,” Huebl says in the new issue of the National Enquirer, which broke the story.

    http://radaronline.com/exclusives/20...-evidence-fbi/
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    The only positive thing to be said for this article is that it was mercifully brief.

    What is truly tragic is to see anyone who generally supports RKBA engaging in so much the same rhetoric as used by gun grabbers.

    How many times have we heard (in legislative hearings, during media interviews, etc) that allowing regular citizens to carry concealed guns in public will lead to shoot outs over parking places or other minor disagreements, increase road rage, and otherwise result in the end of civilization as we know it? I've heard and read these asinine claims more times than I care to count. Always without any serious statistical evidence, never with any object cost-benefit analysis, often with overly-wrought emotions about what could happen.

    Why do we continue to see folks who claim to be pro-RKBA doing likewise when it comes to the imagined and supposed horrors of OC (urban environment or not)?

    Ten or fifteen years ago when we were winning our battle on State preemption against government run colleges, the gun grabbers were very much opposed to CC. They said anyone who wanted to carry a gun should carry it visibly so everyone would know who had a gun. They were clearly hoping that social scorn (and maybe other forces) would work to keep anyone from carrying. These days, they are very much opposed to OC as it has become clear that OCers are not deterred by a little social disapproval from rabid gun haters. So the gun grabbers want to make carry as inconvenient as possible and demand a gun never be seen lest it interfere with the free exchange of ideas on campus.

    We continue to make progress and to laugh at the antics of the hoplophobes.

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    This has seemed like an entire day of regardless of the forum or blog. Lots of stupid spewing out today.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Article was poorly written, unfounded premise, and the comments were made by some very afraid people.

    OC is the stupidest thing you can do???? Please read it and make a counter comment.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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    The whole "you're making yourself a target" argument falls flat to me. I tend to think that if a would-be criminal sees an armed citizen at the quick-e-mart they are about to rob, they will probably go somewhere else. I also tend to not worry about said would-be criminal having an advantage by knowing I'm armed. I'm alert and frosty, so I'm probably already aware of him. Chances are I'm using superior equipment and am faster and more accurate than he is.

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    How many active OCDOers? 3,000? How many have been targeted while OCing? So far have seen posts of Zero.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    How many active OCDOers? 3,000? How many have been targeted while OCing? So far have seen posts of Zero.


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    The only targeting of OCer's I have seen postings of are the ones on Youtube and it usually involves LEO'S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HPmatt View Post
    How many active OCDOers? 3,000? How many have been targeted while OCing? So far have seen posts of Zero.


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    I don't open carry that often… but one time I was targeted last year… the guy gave me a few long looks, and then he came right up at me and asked if my gun was a Rhino, and we had a small discussion about them and some other guns…

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjohnson44546 View Post
    I don't open carry that often… but one time I was targeted last year… the guy gave me a few long looks, and then he came right up at me and asked if my gun was a Rhino, and we had a small discussion about them and some other guns…
    ??????????????? Targeted? Targeted for information, not attack. (Hopefully your comment was sarcasm).
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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    ??????????????? Targeted? Targeted for information, not attack. (Hopefully your comment was sarcasm).



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    Who the F is Paul Huebl?

    And why the H should I care what he thinks?

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    I left a message on Lew's face book page saying how that article made me barf.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    I guess he's never read The Open Carry Argument?
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

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    It's a disastrous mistake??? Does this mental midget of a writer know how many crimes I've stopped, how many lives I've saved, how much hope I've inspired, just by carrying my guns out in the open? What a d-bag tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dog View Post
    It's a disastrous mistake??? Does this mental midget of a writer know how many crimes I've stopped, how many lives I've saved, how much hope I've inspired, just by carrying my guns out in the open? What a d-bag tool.
    Every time you open carry… liberals kill a bunch of babies…

    Sounds like a joke, but sadly its true… though some are so evil, they'll kill the babies anyways.
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    The only mistake us open carriers can make that I would consider a disaster is; does my holster clash with my belt choice? Will my Glock clash with my red polo and tan cargo shorts? The mother of all disasters, does my chrome plated 1911 make my @ss look fat in my levis jeans?

    These are the real problems we deal with every morning as open carriers, and society has yet to acknowledge these real social issues that negatively impact us and our families. All we can do is deal with this one day at a time and hope someday we can beat our tacky fashion choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC Freedom View Post
    The only mistake us open carriers can make that I would consider a disaster is; does my holster clash with my belt choice? Will my Glock clash with my red polo and tan cargo shorts? The mother of all disasters, does my chrome plated 1911 make my @ss look fat in my levis jeans?

    These are the real problems we deal with every morning as open carriers, and society has yet to acknowledge these real social issues that negatively impact us and our families. All we can do is deal with this one day at a time and hope someday we can beat our tacky fashion choices.
    To heck withe the Levis; does it clash with your purse

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    Just remember, folks: belt has to match the shoes, and the holster has to match the belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F350 View Post
    To heck withe the Levis; does it clash with your purse
    Most of the time it does.

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