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query re vehicle searches while LE looks for escapees

solus

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thanks for the inputs, bottom like play nice with the grumpy LEs since they are lacking sleep and 3 squares. oh and keep recording and video'g rolling.

ipse
 

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This Just In From ABC News

I heard this just a little while ago on an ABC affiliate radio station.

ABC reported that a local resident of Friendship, NY said that local residents are being required to show ID. The man-hunt is focused in Friendship after someone reported seeing a couple men who could be the escapees.

Really? You have to show ID to prove you live there? To prove you're not one of the escapees? As though ever cop and federal agent in the hunt hasn't been shown photographs of the escapees. Suuuuuure.
 

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citizen, et al., IMHO the nice police are traipsing down a dangerous slope and setting a precedent I am not please with. I mean, sure the nice LE have a foto of the escapees and if you are young, black, Asian, Hispanic, a woman, four years older than water, who do not in anyway meet the foto's image, shouldn't have to show an id.

maybe, just maybe, I might concede the nice LE might have a slight RAS to ask someone for a foto id who could resemble one of the escapee's fotos.

ipse
 

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citizen, et al., IMHO the nice police are traipsing down a dangerous slope and setting a precedent I am not please with. I mean, sure the nice LE have a foto of the escapees and if you are young, black, Asian, Hispanic, a woman, four years older than water, who do not in anyway meet the foto's image, shouldn't have to show an id.

maybe, just maybe, I might concede the nice LE might have a slight RAS to ask someone for a foto id who could resemble one of the escapee's fotos.

ipse

Washington DC police tried this stunt a few years ago. There was a particular neighborhood where crime was really bad. So, cops set up roadblocks. Demanded that people coming into the neighborhood show ID to prove they lived there. If I recall, they also had to state their business if they were not residents.

This lasted about a week. Civil rights activists raised a fuss. I think there was even a lawsuit threatened or started. The copses abandoned the effort.

A quick examination revealed the police were/would be detaining people without individualized, particularized suspicion, and would be denying some access to the streets of that neighborhood. All unilaterally, of course. Who knew your travel rights were subject to the whims of Chief Cathy Lanier?

Anyway. Yeah. Just demanding ID to prove you're not the guys for which the demander already saw the photograph. Smacks of citizens being subordinate to the state, servants of the state, rather than the other way around.
 
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