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    Islands, Churches, and Guns

    Islands, Churches, and Guns

    As usual, a mass shooting like the one in Charleston brings out the gun rights haters who want to cynically use the blood of the victims to grease the skids for their gun control schemes. One hears and reads claim after nonsensical claim that if only we had less gun rights and fewer guns in the United States the victims would still be alive. Reality tells us something very different.

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    I spent quality time in the Seventies on St. Croix, USVI, shortly after a series of horrific crimes committed with blades, from razors to machetes. ETA: The 1972 Fountain Valley massacres also involved guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    I spent quality time in the Seventies on St. Croix, USVI, shortly after a series of horrific crimes committed with blades, from razors to machetes. ETA: The 1972 Fountain Valley massacres also involved guns.
    I grew up in Puerto Rico & was there when the massacre you mention happened. Perhaps I don't remember it because I was only 12 at the time. While I don't have much experience with St Croix I have been to nearby St Thomas a number of times over many decades. Each time I came away with the impression that there is a lot of racism there. This appears to be what motivated the Fountain Valley killers.

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    Small islands may be an interest peculiar to me. Let's see, I have visited and slept on, in on particular order, Mackinac, Beaver, the Apostles, Sardinia, Maui, Rock, Detroit, Treasure ...and PR, St. Croix. Anyway, all with aboriginal populations are quite racialist.

    In the case of the Fountain Valley massacres, my ship, a submarine, did daily operations in The Tongue of The Ocean for a month or so, and we had the run of St. Croix below Queen Street from 1700 until 2400 weekdays and the whole Island on weekends. The limitation to below-Queen Street was due to the natives' racialism.

    Another time we were at PR's Roosevelt Roads base and were not allowed off-base for it being National-Shoot-A-Gringo Night in Old SJ. We could hear the gunfire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Small islands may be an interest peculiar to me. Let's see, I have visited and slept on, in on particular order, Mackinac, Beaver, the Apostles, Sardinia, Maui, Rock, Detroit, Treasure ...and PR, St. Croix. Anyway, all with aboriginal populations are quite racialist.

    In the case of the Fountain Valley massacres, my ship, a submarine, did daily operations in The Tongue of The Ocean for a month or so, and we had the run of St. Croix below Queen Street from 1700 until 2400 weekdays and the whole Island on weekends. The limitation to below-Queen Street was due to the natives' racialism.

    Another time we were at PR's Roosevelt Roads base and were not allowed off-base for it being National-Shoot-A-Gringo Night in Old SJ. We could hear the gunfire.

    Ahhh yes I remember "kill haole day" very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Ahhh yes I remember "kill haole day" very well.
    LOL Haole means 'without breath' for round-eyes' refusal to nose-kiss Polynesian style. I still have my kama'aina card though I'll likely never go back.

    My Hawai'ian connection is great-grandfather, architect George Page competed for design of the Queen's Palace. His best known work is the Chynoweth-Hayes mansion, the Gem of Edenvale, in San Jose, California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    LOL Haole means 'without breath' for round-eyes' refusal to nose-kiss Polynesian style. I still have my kama'aina card though I'll likely never go back.

    My Hawai'ian connection is great-grandfather, architect George Page competed for design of the Queen's Palace. His best known work is the Chynoweth-Hayes mansion, the Gem of Edenvale, in San Jose, California.
    Yep, since white folks were the first this word which applied to many foreigners stuck with the white folks.

    I never had major issues. I found respect goes a long way. Some claim its because I have color. Yes I keep my Kama'aina current too.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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