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    Costco OC experience

    First post..this place is very informative.

    I have OC'd in this costco(99th & McDowell) multiple times prior to today. I did not see any signs as I always look anywhere I go into.

    Today I went in, walked all over the place for like 20 mins. My ppq was very visible the whole time.

    I then go to check out and upon the cashier handing me my receipt he leans over and quietly lets me know that weapons are not allowed in the store. I then tell him I have been in here multiple times prior to today while OC'ing. He then says, well if one of the managers sees you they'll probably say something.

    I said ok thanks and went on my way. I don't know if this was an isolated incident or their staff is not on the same page because I walked past plenty of employees while I was there.

    Apparently none of them were managers.

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    Welcome to OCOD from a neighbor to the north. I spent a couple of summers and a semester in Tucson while completing my school work some 20 years back. I'm now in the Salt Lake City area.

    There are a couple of recent threads on this very topic; though neither is specific to Arizona.

    Apparently, if you read through the fine print of your Costco membership agreement, all privately carried guns are banned.

    In Utah, such private gun policies at businesses have no force of law so I've never bothered to look very carefully for where in the agreement this language shows up. I just untuck my shirt or put on my jacket (depending on the weather) and CC or casually CC while in Costco. My gun has never been noticed, at least never mentioned.

    Others choose to boycott Costco.

    At the very least, you should double check your State laws and make sure that carrying in a business in violation of a poorly notified "no gun" policy doesn't violate any laws before carrying into such a location.

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    It is unquestionably the store policy.

    In some states, it may not be as enforced by management as in other states. Either way, many have decided not to patronize a company that has made their policy so clear.
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    I suggest you switch to Sam's Club. I used to be a Costco customer until I was made aware of their firearms policy. Now, Sam's gets my money.

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    The Costcos is NoVA got so bad the door greeters/membership checkers know to deny entry right off the bat. YMMV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marshaul View Post
    The Costcos is NoVA got so bad the door greeters/membership checkers know to deny entry right off the bat. YMMV.
    Well this is where I thought i woulda been stopped in the first place....but nope, made my whole shopping trip without anyone saying anything. Except cashier.

    May check out SAMs today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    Welcome to OCOD from a neighbor to the north. I spent a couple of summers and a semester in Tucson while completing my school work some 20 years back. I'm now in the Salt Lake City area.

    There are a couple of recent threads on this very topic; though neither is specific to Arizona.

    Apparently, if you read through the fine print of your Costco membership agreement, all privately carried guns are banned.

    In Utah, such private gun policies at businesses have no force of law so I've never bothered to look very carefully for where in the agreement this language shows up. I just untuck my shirt or put on my jacket (depending on the weather) and CC or casually CC while in Costco. My gun has never been noticed, at least never mentioned.

    Others choose to boycott Costco.

    At the very least, you should double check your State laws and make sure that carrying in a business in violation of a poorly notified "no gun" policy doesn't violate any laws before carrying into such a location.

    All the best.

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    welcome to the forum, you will discern the knowledge base is exemplary...however there are exceptions...

    OP, to be clear, what you are being told by this member is that they quote poorly CC their firearm unquote onto private property knowing full well it is against the property owner's direct wishes... just because it is more convenient to this member.

    per forum rules: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...37#post2149137

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzrman328 View Post
    First post..this place is very informative.

    I have OC'd in this costco(99th & McDowell) multiple times prior to today. I did not see any signs as I always look anywhere I go into.

    Today I went in, walked all over the place for like 20 mins. My ppq was very visible the whole time.

    I then go to check out and upon the cashier handing me my receipt he leans over and quietly lets me know that weapons are not allowed in the store. I then tell him I have been in here multiple times prior to today while OC'ing. He then says, well if one of the managers sees you they'll probably say something.

    I said ok thanks and went on my way. I don't know if this was an isolated incident or their staff is not on the same page because I walked past plenty of employees while I was there.

    Apparently none of them were managers.

    That was a nice checker, going out of her way to try and help you avoid having problems in the future.

    Good example of Costco's exemplary customer service.

    Unlike Congress... YOU should READ the contract BEFORE you SIGN the contract.
    Unlike Congress... Costco doesn't HIDE the contract until after you sign it.

    http://www.costco.com/member-privileges-conditions.html

    If you want to get properly butt hurt over this, get mad they allow civilian police to carry but not civilian non-police.

    Demand equal treatment, demand cops disarm before entering

    At the very least demand they modify their LEO exemption to allow them to carry firearms within the store "only in response to an emergency call."

    I personally don't care what Costco does. They have the best and cheapest hot dogs in the world, which makes a lot of their liberal sins forgivable. Walmart's club on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post
    [ ... ] Walmart's club on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities.
    Without The Great Wal-Mart of China there would be no honey trap for the People of Wal-Mart and their photographers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post
    That was a nice checker, going out of her way to try and help you avoid having problems in the future.

    Good example of Costco's exemplary customer service.

    Unlike Congress... YOU should READ the contract BEFORE you SIGN the contract.
    Unlike Congress... Costco doesn't HIDE the contract until after you sign it.

    http://www.costco.com/member-privileges-conditions.html

    If you want to get properly butt hurt over this, get mad they allow civilian police to carry but not civilian non-police.

    Demand equal treatment, demand cops disarm before entering

    At the very least demand they modify their LEO exemption to allow them to carry firearms within the store "only in response to an emergency call."

    I personally don't care what Costco does. They have the best and cheapest hot dogs in the world, which makes a lot of their liberal sins forgivable. Walmart's club on the other hand, has no redeeming qualities.
    Damm I forgot that part.... The cashier did say "only allowed if I had a badge".

    I'll admit I'm guilty of not reading the fine print. I did not recall not being allowed to carry in their store. I'll gladly abide by their rules. I just can't believe I made it as long as I did before I was told something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post

    Unlike Congress... YOU should READ the contract BEFORE you SIGN the contract.
    Unlike Congress... Costco doesn't HIDE the contract until after you sign it.

    http://www.costco.com/member-privileges-conditions.html
    Do you know this for sure? Does the current member agreement you actually see (not the one online you don't see) have this?

    When i became a member 3 years ago, I specifically looked in the agreement they made me sign, and there was nothing about carrying firearms in it. Don't assume its in the agreement simply because you see a list on their website. We'd need a current copy they use now… which has a lot more than a short list of rules like that web page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjohnson44546 View Post
    Do you know this for sure? Does the current member agreement you actually see (not the one online you don't see) have this?

    When i became a member 3 years ago, I specifically looked in the agreement they made me sign, and there was nothing about carrying firearms in it. Don't assume its in the agreement simply because you see a list on their website. We'd need a current copy they use now… which has a lot more than a short list of rules like that web page.
    2015 copyright doesn't count as current enough?
    general policies.

    Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.

    the paperwork you see at the store is probably the privacy statement

    seems quite clear aoub their intent for carrying firearms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    2015 copyright doesn't count as current enough?
    general policies.

    Costco policy prohibits firearms to be brought into the warehouse, except in the case of authorized law enforcement officers.

    the paperwork you see at the store is probably the privacy statement

    seems quite clear aoub their intent for carrying firearms...

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    My point has nothing to do with what their wishes on firearms are… yes we know they are anti-gun

    The point is, are they making this clear, or are they trying to get people to join while hiding this, so they can try to play both sides. They didn't make it clear I became a member, as they didn't mention it at all.

    You don't go through a membership information package, sign everything and become a member, and then think, "oh I bet they left things out of all this information I signed, I better go check the website to see if they have any more rules!"

    They have a policy they don't (or didn't) make clear. They put it on 1 spot on their website most people aren't going to search for, don't tell people when signing up, and don't post the stores. My comment on checking current membership information you get in person to actually go through and sign is that they may have changed the info and have it listed now, even if they didn't a few years ago…

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjohnson44546 View Post
    The point is, are they making this clear, or are they trying to get people to join while hiding this, so they can try to play both sides. They didn't make it clear I became a member, as they didn't mention it at all.
    1) "Membership is subject to any and all rules adopted by Costco including our privacy policies and practices, and they may be amended from time to time without notice." <- standard type of EULA or ToS language

    2) "On Membership: We will refund your membership fee in full at any time if you are dissatisfied."

    3) Collect underwear

    4) ?

    5) Profit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    I suggest you switch to Sam's Club. I used to be a Costco customer until I was made aware of their firearms policy. Now, Sam's gets my money.
    Same here. Went last Friday to get ready for our BBQ we had this last weekend, spent over $400 (ouch!). That's $400 that the antigunners at Costco will never see.

    And on top of that: Sam's has Nathan's Hot Dogs for $1.25 ($1.50 with a Root Beer) Win!
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