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    4-Year-Old Accidentally Shot By Columbus Police Officer

    “I did hear the gunshot – it was very loud,” he said. “At first I thought maybe he’d shot the dog, because she was saying something about ‘Why would you try to shoot the dog?’ and he said something like the dog was attacking him, or something like that. Then, she started saying ‘You shot my kid!’.”

    http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/...e-officer.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ecovering.html

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...-shooting.html

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...4+year+old+kid
    Conflicting versions of the incident.
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    LIARS
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    It

    was

    NEGLIGENCE.


    http://armeddefense.org/safetyrules

    1) Treat every firearm as if it's loaded.
    2) Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy.
    3) Always be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    4) Keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to fire.

    How many rules did the trained professional violate?

    Criminal action? Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post
    LIARS
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    It

    was

    NEGLIGENCE.


    http://armeddefense.org/safetyrules

    1) Treat every firearm as if it's loaded.
    2) Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy.
    3) Always be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    4) Keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to fire.

    How many rules did the trained professional violate?

    Criminal action? Maybe.
    No, not negligence, and likely not criminal either, he did not violate any of the safety rules, he did not violate policy, maybe, he simply missed hitting the threat. The kid will survive, the city may pay medical bills, at a minimum.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Spend some time at the range. Spend some of that time shooting at moving targets. Set up some of those moving targets so they are not square on to you.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave_pro2a View Post
    2) Never point a firearm at anything you are not willing to destroy.
    3) Always be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    4) Keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and ready to fire.
    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    he did not violate any of the safety rules, he did not violate policy, maybe, he simply missed hitting the threat.
    IDK, if he had managed to adhere to the above 3 rules, then a little girl would not have been shot by a cop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    ...he simply missed hitting the threat...
    What threat? They are trained to treat dogs as targets without question. Officer safety, and all that.

    Cops are so-called professionals. At what point can we expect them to start EXPECTING a dog, and ask questions about dogs before entering properties/homes?

    I fix air conditioners for a living. I meet a dozen new dogs a day on their turf. Even the few that I've been leery of haven't needed a bullet. What am I doing wrong?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    I fix air conditioners for a living. I meet a dozen new dogs a day on their turf. Even the few that I've been leery of haven't needed a bullet. What am I doing wrong?
    You don't act like an hyper-aggressive, power-tripping, donkey-behind.

    Dogs sense that sort of thing.
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    And this incident is about open carry??????? OHHH, The dog must have been open carrying. It must have been a Woof, Woof 45 I See Pee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makarov View Post
    And this incident is about open carry??????? OHHH, The dog must have been open carrying. It must have been a Woof, Woof 45 I See Pee.
    Like this thread, created by a mod in a state subforum, that is about LEO and not open carry. http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...od-that-men-do

    Good for the goose, good for the gander. So this thread must be ok, according to the laws of non-hypocrisy,.
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    God bless that poor cop. I am assuming since the dog was such a threat and he missed, the dog must have mauled him to death yes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    No, not negligence, and likely not criminal either, he did not violate any of the safety rules, he did not violate policy, maybe, he simply missed hitting the threat. The kid will survive, the city may pay medical bills, at a minimum.
    He missed a PERCIEVED threat... no story I read shows the dog posing any actual threat to the officer, merely a dog running towards a new person entering it's property... as all dogs over 5 pounds do.

    And if policy allows him to fire at any and all dogs merely for thinking they might pisossibly hurt him, the that policy is wrong and must be changed post haste.
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