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    Why do we celebrate the 4th of July

    LOL When he told chick her celebration privileges were being revoked.

    Bunch of people don't know why we celebrate the 4th of July

    If they don't even know why we celebrate the holiday, how could they possibly understand any of the various reasons that the value of that celebration is being diluted?

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    I do not celebrate "the 4th of July." I celebrate American Independence Day that falls on the Fourth of July.

    All countries that share our calendar have a 4 July. Kind'a like maroons celebrating Cinco de Mayo as Mexican Independence Day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    I do not celebrate "the 4th of July." I celebrate American Independence Day that falls on the Fourth of July.

    All countries that share our calendar have a 4 July. Kind'a like maroons celebrating Cinco de Mayo as Mexican Independence Day.
    Maybe I should have said "why we celebrate on the 4th of July"

    I think in the video he probably referred to the holiday as "the 4th of July" to be as generic as possible and not give hints about the answers to his questions.

    I do wonder if there are any [other] holidays that we refer to using the day of the month rather than the actual name of the holiday... Can't think of any. Then again, not all holidays fall on the same numbered day every year, right?

    I wonder how it came about that we started calling Independence Day "the 4th of July"
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    Celebrate?

    I've gone back and forth about whether to celebrate.

    Today I came across this (Fair Use Quote/excerpt):

    ...This coming weekend, Americans will celebrate not being free to – among other things:

    • Buy and display fireworks themselves.
    • Choose whether to wear a seat belt.
    • Say “no thanks” to the health insurance mafia.
    • Travel without permission (and decline to produce your “papers” on demand).
    • Smoke in a privately owned bar or pool hall.
    • Freely associate – or not.
    • ...


    More here, including a thought-provoking intro: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07/...-we-dont-have/
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Maybe I should have said "why we celebrate on the 4th of July"

    I think in the video he probably referred to the holiday as "the 4th of July" to be as generic as possible and not give hints about the answers to his questions.

    I do wonder if there are any [other] holidays that we refer to using the day of the month rather than the actual name of the holiday... Can't think of any. Then again, not all holidays fall on the same numbered day every year, right?

    I wonder how it came about that we started calling Independence Day "the 4th of July"

    Really? Honestly? You are actually telling me you do not know why we started calling Independence Day "the 4th of July"? A hint:

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasure...s/uc006330.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    Maybe I should have said "why we celebrate on the 4th of July"

    I think in the video he probably referred to the holiday as "the 4th of July" to be as generic as possible and not give hints about the answers to his questions.

    I do wonder if there are any [other] holidays that we refer to using the day of the month rather than the actual name of the holiday... Can't think of any. Then again, not all holidays fall on the same numbered day every year, right?

    I wonder how it came about that we started calling Independence Day "the 4th of July"
    Good point. We don't call Christmas "the 25th of December." Or, Memorial Day "the Last Monday in May." Somewhere along the way, the independence angle got lopped off.

    Maybe its just laziness. Its easier to say fourthofjuly.
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    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    [ ... ] Maybe its just laziness. Its easier to say fourthofjuly.
    Yep. And think beer, brats and booms rather than "the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Really? Honestly? You are actually telling me you do not know why we started calling Independence Day "the 4th of July"? A hint:

    http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasure...s/uc006330.jpg

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    Of course I know the significance of the day - that doesn't explain why we refer to the holiday as that day I'm sure there are other holidays that celebrate (or memorialize?) an event that happened on a specific day that we know, surely, but I'm unaware of any other holidays that we call by the day instead of the name or title.
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    Ok, Cinco de Mayo, nice. The others don't really fit the criteria but ok. Not sure how far down this rabbit trail you all want to go but I guess I'm along for the ride
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    How about the small, insignificant factoid that the entity that was declaring itself free and independent did not actually do so "in Congress, July 4, 1776"? Or that the matter was not even brought up for discussion on that date, let alone voted on?

    But that was the date the notice of intent was published, and "The Day The Colonies Published Their Intent To Declare Independence" Day is really cumbersome.

    Copies of the Declaration, still not voted on, were sent out to the parts of the colonies that were not Philadelphia and arrived at their destination as late as 6 weeks later. The rubes and hicks, not knowing any better (nor really caring) celebrated the day they thought the deed had been done. Very much, incidentally, like why the Mexicans celebrate Cinco de Mayo instead of "The Day We Beat The Pants Off Those [expletive] French". (By that time everybody and their 3rd cousin had defeated the French at least once - including the French! Beating them was not considered all that big a deal.)

    Being even more pedantic, "independence" was not achieved until the Treaty of Paris was signed on September 3, 1783 - thus Independence Day would properly be celebrated on that date (which would later have caused a major controversy about adding Labor Day as an official holiday signifying the end of summer vacation and return to school).

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