How to really thank a veteran. (Rant)

twoskinsonemanns said:

Thanks for posting that I enjoyed it.



hmmm it must be disappointing to recount the failure of your nazi ancestry. Although with their take on homosexuality it's questionable whether you'd be proudly prancing in pink today if they were successful. Considering how long it took queen's to get rights in "free" america I imagine success on that front very slow coming in a blatant totalitarian state.

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Oh, I don't like nazis, and I don't support national socialism, or the genocide of over 4 million LGBT people. I respect the man/men, and their service to the NATION, not their acts, reasons, or justifications. Now the WW1 side, and prior, I fully support, like, and applaud their service, acts, reasons, and justifications. But hey, many republican and conserva-fascists believe that Hitler, and the entire Nazi government was actually gay, and the genocide against LGBT people was a cover-up. Also, I HIGHLY RESENT you're bigoted tone, and hateful slur of 'Queens' when speaking about LGBT people, consider your post reported.

decklin said:

I never said otherwise. I just find it interesting that a gay man is so ready to classify an entire group of people and hate them for misguided reasons.
Now that is irony.
I've never asked for special favors and I don't take advantage of them. I don't ask for discounts. I've never filed for disability with the va. In fact I want nothing to do with the va.
I made the decision to serve and that burden shouldn't have to fall on anybody else.
But when I see someone spewing hate and absolute nonsense am I not supposed to say something?
I enjoyed my time in the Infantry. I enjoy my time outside of the Infantry even more. I'm able to appreciate the simple fact of life far more than my pre-infantry days.

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I notice how you are happy to point that out about my heavy disliking of U.S. Veterans, and the U.S. Military, while being a member of the LGBT community; Yet, you don't seem to point out the irony when a Libertarian, or Conserva-fascist/Republican whines, and moans, and cries about the SCOTUS ruling for Gay Marriage equality being a grave injustice to states rights, YET, advocate for 'personal liberties' and 'individual freedoms'. Perhaps someone should educate you on the basic concepts of Irony, since you seem so inept in calling the shots.

If Conserva-fascists can pick an entire group of people and hate on them for baseless reasons, then so can I! Except, because I'm gay, and apart of a minority that is discriminated against by governments, and people alike, and have a history of hostility against my people from both the gov't and the people, I have sort of a immunity, the same immunity that black people have for hating white people and talking about black supremacy---i mean, black rights. When you're in a minority with a history of hate by the majority, you get to hate on whomever you want, and most media and politicians will love you for it.

DrakeZ07 said:

Oh, I don't like nazis, and I don't support national socialism, or the genocide of over 4 million LGBT people. I respect the man/men, and their service to the NATION, not their acts, reasons, or justifications. Now the WW1 side, and prior, I fully support, like, and applaud their service, acts, reasons, and justifications. But hey, many republican and conserva-fascists believe that Hitler, and the entire Nazi government was actually gay, and the genocide against LGBT people was a cover-up. Also, I HIGHLY RESENT you're bigoted tone, and hateful slur of 'Queens' when speaking about LGBT people, consider your post reported.



I notice how you are happy to point that out about my heavy disliking of U.S. Veterans, and the U.S. Military, while being a member of the LGBT community; Yet, you don't seem to point out the irony when a Libertarian, or Conserva-fascist/Republican whines, and moans, and cries about the SCOTUS ruling for Gay Marriage equality being a grave injustice to states rights, YET, advocate for 'personal liberties' and 'individual freedoms'. Perhaps someone should educate you on the basic concepts of Irony, since you seem so inept in calling the shots.

If Conserva-fascists can pick an entire group of people and hate on them for baseless reasons, then so can I! Except, because I'm gay, and apart of a minority that is discriminated against by governments, and people alike, and have a history of hostility against my people from both the gov't and the people, I have sort of a immunity, the same immunity that black people have for hating white people and talking about black supremacy---i mean, black rights. When you're in a minority with a history of hate by the majority, you get to hate on whomever you want, and most media and politicians will love you for it.

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say the states don't want you to marry for the benefits in their state in the welfare system area. the bolded part right there shows they aren't really affecting that particular aspect as individually you both can choose to live with each other and have a intimate relationship with each other. same with "personal liberty" I see no real change in what you can do by choice, I just see a title granted by the government that they charge you for and welfare benefits, primarily. there are additional ones like "family only" medical visitations among other things. but again ultimately this doesn't change your ability to live with your personal choices with your personal relationship.

decklin said:

I've never filed for disability with the va. In fact I want nothing to do with the va. .

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Yeah, time for Vets to pay for their own Obamacare.

solus said:

so personally i think your explanation is far far worse than drake's rant since it could be easily recognized as being an irrational tirade. but your's is well thought out and says far more than drake's and you even start it off with don't jump down your throat...sorry, glad those who served were able to protect your ability to say the inane things you say and do.

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solus, I see you drank the kool-aid. My peers who were drafted into the Vietnam war would take issue with your view. But, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how misguided. I know a few that had a choice between jail or the military. They chose the military. The fact is there are many in the military that could give a rats a$$ about your rights.

Have a nice day....

color of law said:

solus, I see you drank the kool-aid. My peers who were drafted into the Vietnam war would take issue with your view. But, you are entitled to your opinion no matter how misguided. I know a few that had a choice between jail or the military. They chose the military. The fact is there are many in the military that could give a rats a$$ about your rights.

Have a nice day....

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Like, gang members https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_presence_in_the_United_States_military

FBI said:

FBI gang investigator Jennifer Simon stated that 1-2% of the U.S. military belongs to gangs, which is 50-100 times the rate in the general population

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DrakeZ07 said:

Oh, I don't like nazis, and I don't support national socialism, or the genocide of over 4 million LGBT people. I respect the man/men, and their service to the NATION, not their acts, reasons, or justifications.

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I understand I think. You don't like the Nazis' genocide but respect the men doing it. And don't respect American vets because of the hero worship...
I don't believe there is any confusion. I stand by my initial "repugnant" assertion.

DrakeZ07 said:

But hey, many republican and conserva-fascists believe that Hitler, and the entire Nazi government was actually gay, and the genocide against LGBT people was a cover-up. Also, I HIGHLY RESENT you're bigoted tone, and hateful slur of 'Queens' when speaking about LGBT people, consider your post reported.

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I'm devastated that you resent my comments
Here's something you can have to make up for it.

DrakeZ07 said:

two big middle-fingers

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DrakeZ07 said:

I notice how you are happy to point that out about my heavy disliking of U.S. Veterans, and the U.S. Military, while being a member of the LGBT community; Yet, you don't seem to point out the irony when a Libertarian, or Conserva-fascist/Republican whines, and moans, and cries about the SCOTUS ruling for Gay Marriage equality being a grave injustice to states rights, YET, advocate for 'personal liberties' and 'individual freedoms'. Perhaps someone should educate you on the basic concepts of Irony, since you seem so inept in calling the shots.

If Conserva-fascists can pick an entire group of people and hate on them for baseless reasons, then so can I! Except, because I'm gay, and apart of a minority that is discriminated against by governments, and people alike, and have a history of hostility against my people from both the gov't and the people, I have sort of a immunity, the same immunity that black people have for hating white people and talking about black supremacy---i mean, black rights. When you're in a minority with a history of hate by the majority, you get to hate on whomever you want, and most media and politicians will love you for it.

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You're right, I should have gone totally off topic to point out every piece of irony to be found in current events. I'm sorry I couldn't cater to your special needs.

Utahbagger ain't posting, so mods leave this thread alone.

Cuss words, insults, and everything

Freedom1Man said:

I am a veteran and when people learn this they (most often) thank me for my service. Being as surly as I can be I will ask what it was that I did. The most common response is that I was defending their freedom. I ask how did I do that. Most people cannot answer that question.

What is really interesting is how many of these people who thank me are liberals/progressives/anti-gun (rights) individuals.

So, what is the best way to thank a veteran for defending your freedom? Well, if you vote for anti-freedom laws the best way to thank me is to write an apology note and then off yourself. *frustration speaking*

In reality, the best way to thank the veterans, who are like me, is to start using your brain and not emotion when voting. Start voting for those you want fewer laws, less government, and stop voting for any tax increases. Also read the constitutions, the one for your state and the one that the states agreed to abide by (the federal constitution).

Start recognizing equal rights for everyone. If one group is protected and another is not, that is not equality that is legal segregation.

Start defending the rights of others.

Start taking responsibility for the defense of yourself, your liberty, and your property. Also if you are civil then offer to assist others in their defenses.

What other ways, would you say, can people truly thank veterans?

Thanks for reading my rant.

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I too am a veteran, but I think you're way off target.

The solution is simple: For God and Country. The God part is personal for each person, and beyond the scope of this conversation. The Country part simply means "support and defend the Constitution." That's it. When people do that, all the rest of what you talked about falls into place.

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Logan 5 said:

If you value your Right to Keep & Bear Arms, thank a vet. x
If you value your Freedom of Religion, thank a vet.
If you value your Freedom of Speech, thank a vet. x
If you value your Right to Vote, thank a vet. x
If you value your free K-12 education, thank a vet. x
If you value your Right to Travel, thank a vet. *
If you value your Right to Own a Home, thank a vet. *
If you value your Right to Hunt & Fish, thank a vet. *
If you value your Right to Watch Any TV Program You Want, thank a vet. *
If you value your Right to Have a BBQ in Your Back/Front Yard, thank a vet. *
If you value your Ability to Go to the Ball Game, thank a vet. **
If you value your Ability to Go Shopping, thank a vet. **
If you value your Ability to Walk Down The Street Day or Night, thank a vet. **
If you value your Opportunity to Go to a School of Higher Learning (College/Vo-Tech), thank a vet. **
If you value your Internet Availability, thank a vet. **
If you value your Right to Be a Redneck, thank a vet. *

Most importantly for you I’m sure, if you value your right to be gay, thank a vet.

All these rights and abilities and opportunities that you have, and you show that much disrespect for our vets.

Oh well. Just remember the next time you’re at a wreck, the volunteer firefighter that helps you just might be a vet. I wonder what your fellow EMT/Fire-Rescue would think if they knew this about you.
Hmmm.

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x = things the Fed has ruined or infringed upon

* = things that are not Rights

** = things people can do in China, Iran, North Korea, etc. Shop, see a movie, go to a game, walk down a street. No "Thank a Vet" needed.

Freedom1Man said:

That war had zero to do with our country.

Our government did antagonize Japan into a shooting match as an excuse to attack Germany on behalf of the bankers. We had committed the act of war against Japan by way of sanctions.
So, no, we would not be speaking German or Japanese if we had kept out of that conflict.

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Wow! Not sure your understanding of history is based in reality or some twisted fantasy. If you think the USA could have sat by and did nothing after Pearl Harbor, and nothing here would have changed, you are a fool at best. IMHO.

Dave_pro2a said:

x = things the Fed has ruined or infringed upon

* = things that are not Rights

** = things people can do in China, Iran, North Korea, etc. Shop, see a movie, go to a game, walk down a street. No "Thank a Vet" needed.

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* = things that are rights that you've mis-identified.

I thank veterans by not supporting unconstitutional wars and "entangling foreign alignments".

FreeInAZ said:

Wow! Not sure your understanding of history is based in reality or some twisted fantasy. If you think the USA could have sat by and did nothing after Pearl Harbor, and nothing here would have changed, you are a fool at best. IMHO.

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Pearl Harbor was a staged event.
http://joecrubaugh.com/blog/2007/02/06/the-myth-of-pearl-harbor/
http://truth11.com/2010/10/17/pearl...t-could-to-cause-a-japanese-attack-on-americ/
http://syzygyastro.hubpages.com/hub/False-Flags

Only war mongers wanted us at war.

We could have left all of Europe alone. We could have just put 100% focus on Japan.

We had no business getting into that, or most any other, war.

By that logic - why do you carry a gun? If your neighbors are being attacked all around you, you think once their enslaved or turned into lamp shades, you won't be next?

Get real! I am no war hawk, but I do acknowledged evil when I see it, particularly on a mass scale! I also know it must be fought, or it spreads like an unchecked cancer.

And like it or not, we are all part of this worldly body we call Earth. To pretend evil will simply spread "around" us, but not upon us is, unicorn & rainbow wishes, and utterly unrealistic.

georg jetson said:

* = things that are rights that you've mis-identified.

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Take Right to travel for instance.

I agree, it's a right. The government has no right to prevent any citizen from traveling.

Why do we need a drivers license to travel?

Oh yeah, not a Right.

No fly list, great idea. Is there due process? Transparency? An appeal process? Nope, nope, nope, nope.

NOLA: gov shoots people who travel. Now, is that a Right, or wrong? They were just... traveling.

FreeInAZ said:

I do acknowledged evil when I see it, particularly on a mass scale! I also know it must be fought, or it spreads like an unchecked cancer.

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say it again, but this time with a german accent.

twoskinsonemanns said:

say it again, but this time with a german accent.

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Nice try -

Keep trying

FreeInAZ said:

By that logic - why do you carry a gun? If your neighbors are being attacked all around you, you think once their enslaved or turned into lamp shades, you won't be next?

Get real! I am no war hawk, but I do acknowledged evil when I see it, particularly on a mass scale! I also know it must be fought, or it spreads like an unchecked cancer.

And like it or not, we are all part of this worldly body we call Earth. To pretend evil will simply spread "around" us, but not upon us is, unicorn & rainbow wishes, and utterly unrealistic.

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Full context of my post -

Not troll picked.