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    OT: Another attempted car-jacking is fatal for bad guy

    As noted in the subject, this has nothing to do with OC nor even RKBA. That said...

    Not that decent men ever celebrate the demise of a fellow human being, but perhaps criminals will start to get the message that car jacking is a very dangerous past time to pursue in the Beehive State.

    KSL is reporting that a man has died after he was tasered in the very act of an attempted car jacking. The taser apparantly put him into cardiac arrest and after a week in an induced coma to assist with recover, he has passed.

    Full article at link above. Excerpt:

    Quote Originally Posted by KSL

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    UHP Lt. Chris Simmons previously said Gormley had attempted to carjack two vehicles after running away from an investigating trooper.

    On his second attempt, he jumped into that vehicle on top of the lap of a 53-year-old woman and repeatedly punched her in an attempt to get her out of the car, Simmons said.

    The woman was able to fight him enough that she prevented him from putting her car in gear and driving away. When the pursuing trooper caught up, he reached inside the car and deployed a Taser on Gormley. Backup troopers helped the woman get out of her car as Gormley continued to struggle with troopers. A Taser was deployed three more times before troopers were finally able to take him into custody.

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    Tests showed he was under the influence of methamphetamine and opiates at the time, according to the lieutenant.

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    Charles
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    Headline could read: Unarmed woman resists violent robbery; gets lucky.

    Alternate headline: Cops' kill suspect with Tasers.

    Outright shooting him would have been justified, so perhaps this was one of the truly appropriate uses of potentially lethal Tasers yet: to give a violent, actively dangerous suspect a last chance at survival. Oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Headline could read: Unarmed woman resists violent robbery; gets lucky.

    Alternate headline: Cops' kill suspect with Tasers.

    Outright shooting him would have been justified, so perhaps this was one of the truly appropriate uses of potentially lethal Tasers yet: to give a violent, actively dangerous suspect a last chance at survival. Oh well.
    She did get lucky. OTOH, that she put up a fight that kept him from driving off with her as a hostage, or even over her after she was forced from her car, and did so long enough for others to help should remind each of us that being disarmed (as offensive as that is) doesn't mean we are defenseless.

    And it would be highly risky to the innocent victim for the police to [edit to correct]shoot the suspect while he sitting on top of the victim.

    As for potentially lethal tasers, how do they compare to billy clubs in terms of likely risk of serious bodily harm? My guess--and it is just a guess--that a billy club is more likely to inflict injuries, while a taser is more likely to result in unintended death on the occasions that the person on whom it is used has some underlying medical condition. Does anyone have any papers on the subject?

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    All experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. Thank heaven we do not permit a few to impose anarchy.

    "With Anarchy as an aim and as a means, Communism becomes possible."
    --Marxist.org

    "Communism and Anarchy [are], a necessary complement to one another. "
    --PETER KROPOTKIN, "Anarchism: its philosophy and ideal." 1898.

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