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    Arrested for brandishing a gun at Rebel Flag supporter?

    This report seems confused; was James Baker arrested or not?

    In any case, this is no way to misuse a gun!

    Man arrested for pointing gun at Confederate flag supporters
    A Chesterfield family is waving their flags once again. They say police told them a man confessed to pointing a gun at one of the family members.

    "The police went and investigated, and they let him go. He admitted everything and they just let him go, and I don't understand that," said Mark Wilson.
    Yet....
    But on Tuesday evening, Chesterfield Police say 46-year-old James Baker was arrested for brandishing a firearm, a class one misdemeanor.

    Baker, meanwhile, has been released, pending his appearance in General District Court in September.
    Lots of comments in that article.

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    From the article he was indeed arrested - just not right after the complaint was made.

    What I'm trying to figure out is where Baker was in relation to the people he is alleged to have brandished at -

    Were they in their driveway waving flags and he brandished while driving past? (Which I suppose would make it one of those dreaded drive-by incidents.)

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    Other more detailed reports state that he got out of his vehicle and placed the gun to the head of the flag waver.

    Whereas he admitted what he did, sounds like a no-brainer for the cops, but they had to go ask permission to arrest the brandisher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by va_tazdad View Post
    Other more detailed reports state that he got out of his vehicle and placed the gun to the head of the flag waver.

    Whereas he admitted what he did, sounds like a no-brainer for the cops, but they had to go ask permission to arrest the brandisher.
    Award of the month for Stupid!

    If that is the case, then I seriously think that the charge(s) should be upgraded to probably include Assault & Battery, use of a firearm in a felony, and maybe others.

    No bond required so far?
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    No way he could be that stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    No way he could be that stupid.
    Sayeth the man with experience.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Sayeth the man with experience.*

    And welcome back - as much as it pains me to say so, we missed you.

    stay safe.

    * - Yes, it takes one to know one. Wanna make something of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    Sure name the time and the place big boy[emoji13]

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    Awwwwwww you said BIG BOY.
    Your gonna be in trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Awwwwwww you said BIG BOY.
    Your gonna be in trouble. [emoji38]
    I almost forget[emoji117]

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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    Sure name the time and the place big boy[emoji13]

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    i gotta quarter on skid....(skid rest easy, if your butt gets baddly wooooop'd i'm trained to go for help, uh in chapel hill)

    i'd come up for this fight...

    (and no i'm not the one who instigates fights in bars and then hides under the table...at least, not always!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    Sure name the time and the place big boy[emoji13]
    OK, but we are going to have to use street addresses - you know, the ones that USPS looks at before giving your mail to somebody else.

    And I can take you any time, any where. $1.50 starts the meter, then it's $0.15 for each 1/10 mile up to 1 mile, and $0.25 per 1/10 mile after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    i gotta quarter on skid....(skid rest easy, if your butt gets baddly wooooop'd i'm trained to go for help, uh in chapel hill)

    i'd come up for this fight...

    (and no i'm not the one who instigates fights in bars and then hides under the table...at least, not always!)

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    i'd come up for this fight...
    ...location to be determined (and described) by Patriot88 !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMark View Post
    ...location to be determined (and described) by Patriot88 !!
    'cause in that case, someone may again be a no-show!
    Last edited by bc.cruiser; 07-21-2015 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bc.cruiser View Post
    [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38] 'cause in that case, someone may again be a no-show!
    And who might that be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    And who might that be?

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    Which is why I dragged the USPS into this.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Which is why I dragged the USPS into this.

    stay safe.
    You just took all the fun out of it for skid

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Which is why I dragged the USPS into this.

    stay safe.
    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    You just took all the fun out of it for skid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Award of the month for Stupid!

    If that is the case, then I seriously think that the charge(s) should be upgraded to probably include Assault & Battery, use of a firearm in a felony, and maybe others.

    No bond required so far?
    In my neck of the woods (UTAH) he has already met, assuming the reporting is accurate, the requirements to be charged with Aggravated Assault ( a felony ) simply by drawing weapon not in an effort to deescalate
    another crime or not in needed self-defense or defense of another. Once the gun makes contact with the other without that person's consent then he is up for the additional battery charge as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bc.cruiser View Post
    'cause in that case, someone may again be a no-show!
    OUCH...harsh bc...real HARSH!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    OUCH...harsh bc...real HARSH!!

    ipse
    But funny!

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    'cause in that case, someone may again be a no-show!
    They'd both show, just not at the same location...

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    Brandishing Man gets 12 months for pulling gun

    Quote Originally Posted by All American Nightmare View Post
    No way he could be that stupid.
    Well ... maybe he is; at least the court thought so:

    Amelia man gets 12 months for pulling gun on flaggers
    Chesterfield General District Court Judge Matthew D. Nelson last week found James S. Baker, 47, of Amelia Courthouse, guilty of brandishing a firearm, a class 1 misdemeanor. Nelson told Baker that he made the wrong choice on July 13 when instead of continuing east on U.S. Route 360, he decided to make a U-turn and confront a group of county residents displaying Confederate flags on the side of the highway.

    After listening to testimony from four witnesses, Nelson sentenced Baker to 12 months in jail, with 11 months suspended and ordered him to pay $262 in fines and court costs. Nelson also ordered that Baker forfeit his .45-caliber Ruger semi-automatic pistol.
    Oh wow - what happens to that gun, now? Can we bid on it or something?

    Now to the question: how stupid is stupid? Well...
    Wilson, who also was carrying a Confederate flag, said Baker turned his vehicle around and pulled into the median strip. After Baker exited the vehicle, Wilson testified that Baker pulled out a handgun, loaded a round in the chamber and pointed the gun at him and said, “Your cause worth it now?”

    Wilson said that seconds later Baker got back in his vehicle and sped away but not before he was able to get Baker’s license plate number and notify the police.
    How's that for stupid? Also:
    Bullard (the defense attorney) argued that Baker produced his handgun as an act of self-defense because he felt threatened.

    Assistant Commonwealth’s Attorney Laura S. Khawaja countered there was no testimony that anyone was using the flags in a threatening manner.

    “They were just holding the flag that day,” she said.

    Khawaja asked that the court find Baker guilty and impose an active jail sentence.

    Placing a round in the chamber of a gun and then pointing it at someone is “incredibly serious,” Khawaja said.
    Gee, you think?

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    Just from what I've seen here and in the news…,

    I can't say that I disagree with the conviction, or the sentence, though I think the convicted should pay a lot more in fines. Self Defense? Now THAT'S a stretch, "Stupid is as stupid does, sir.", apologies to Forrest Gump.

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    11 of the 12 months suspended ? .. total BS
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