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    Governors order National Guardsmen to be armed after attacks

    Scott ordered the Guardsmen to be armed, as did governors in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-18-14-43-54

    https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=d1g_d0OI39a8cxM

    Pence allowing Indiana Guardsmen to be armed after attacks
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...e-armed-after/
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    Now, where are those people who told me over the years that the national guard is the militia?
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    With the recent hacked revelation of OPM data, will the inactive reserves veterans and veteran federal employees be armed in advance of their demonstrated risks?
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    I guess the sitting ducks will have to wait until they are granted permission by their Federal overlords.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Scott ordered the Guardsmen to be armed, as did governors in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas and Oklahoma.

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...07-18-14-43-54

    https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl=d1g_d0OI39a8cxM

    Pence allowing Indiana Guardsmen to be armed after attacks
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...e-armed-after/
    REALLY? Ordering?

    So far the governors are suspending the rules against Guardsmen bringing personally owned firearms to state armories, training centers, and the like.

    Nobody has opened the armory and started passing out .mil weaponry or ammunition. There has been some talk about doing that and storing .mil/NG weapons at recruiting centers. So far the cooler heads who took the time to realize what a logistical and administrative headache that would cause in order to meet security regs are prevailing on that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTHunter View Post
    At least it is a step in the "right" direction!
    The "right direction" would be to construct some sort of perimeter with fighting holes and have OPs/LPs out beyond that. A real PITA when you may have less than three folks in the recruiting center (perimeter, OP, & LP). Also a PITA if the potential recruit does not have the correct countersign.

    Or maybe to install bullet-resistant glazing (without making a big production of it).

    Maybe sally ports with the same nudie scanners they use at the airport.

    Make the recruiters and NG folks wear combat armor (including helmets and diapers) while on duty.

    This was a random attack. Nobody had previously assaulted the facilities, and apparently DHS did not think he was a big enough risk to act on before this happened.

    Think of the attack as a drive-by shooting. Unless you have folks out there looking for "the enemy" it's going to next to impossible to prevent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    The "right direction" would be to construct some sort of perimeter with fighting holes and have OPs/LPs out beyond that. A real PITA when you may have less than three folks in the recruiting center (perimeter, OP, & LP). Also a PITA if the potential recruit does not have the correct countersign.

    Or maybe to install bullet-resistant glazing (without making a big production of it).

    Maybe sally ports with the same nudie scanners they use at the airport.

    Make the recruiters and NG folks wear combat armor (including helmets and diapers) while on duty.
    It's a recruiting station, not a discouraging station. These extreme steps would scare away many recruits.

    This was a random attack.
    Given the fact he hit one recruiting station then drove to another recruiting station about twenty miles away, the attack wasn't random. He specifically targeted recruiting stations. Now, the ones he picked my have been "random" from the sense that they were merely the nearest two...

    Nobody had previously assaulted the facilities, and apparently DHS did not think he was a big enough risk to act on before this happened.
    When potential recruits to the police department walk into a police station and ask to sign up, the members of the police department are armed.

    Our nation's military is called the "Armed Forces" for a reason.

    Yet since HillBillary Clinton served office in the 1990s before stealing national treasures from the White House, our nation's military has not be allowed to be armed while in garrison, with the exception of military police.

    Think of the attack as a drive-by shooting. Unless you have folks out there looking for "the enemy" it's going to next to impossible to prevent.
    The same goes for any random mass shooting. Yet we have several instances where armed citizens have stopped mass shooters.

    The key is to arm as many as we can. You don't protect people by disarming them. You protect them by arming them. The people in our nation's military recruiting stations should be armed for precisely the same reason We the People are armed: It Works, if not for it's deterrent effect, then for it's stopping power in the hands of those who know how to use a firearm.
    The First protects the Second, and the Second protects the First. Together, they protect the rest of our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution, and help We the People protect ourselves in the spirit of our Declaration of Independence.

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    Unfortunately Federally speaking, the only Civilian Government Employees that are armed are those within the DOJ/DHS allowed to do so. Only place where there a possibility of a Civilian Government Employee (Not Law Enforcement) being armed would be up in the remote parts of Alaska, for protection against the wildlife.

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    With the recent hacked revelation of OPM data, will the inactive reserves veterans and veteran federal employees be armed in advance of their demonstrated risks?

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