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    Civilian guards ordered to leave ... after one accidentally[sic] fires rifle

    "LANCASTER, Ohio — The owner of a shopping center that includes a storefront military recruitment center ordered armed civilians guarding the center to leave the premises today after one of them accidentally fired his rifle.

    A Lancaster police officer delivered the order this afternoon from U.S. Properties Group Portfolio Four LLC, whose strip mall near the River Valley Mall includes the Armed Services Career Center. “God bless you,” the officer told the armed volunteers, but leave the property.
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    Christopher A. Reed, 28, of Lancaster, was charged with discharging a firearm in the city limits, and was issued a summons to appear in Fairfield County Municipal Court on Tuesday, according to the police incident report.

    Reed told the officer who responded that he was holding his AR-15 rifle in front of the military recruiting station to guard the personnel inside when someone approached him and asked if he could take a look at the weapon. Reed agreed to show him, and while he was trying to clear the ammunition from the weapon, he accidentally fired into the asphalt pavement. "

    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...hot-fired.html

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    Shame we can't do that every time a government agent has an ND.
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    *facepalm*

    So, he gets a "God bless you" after a ND, can you imagine what an "open carry advocate" would get if they had an ND? Somehow I think the reaction would be significantly different.

    Meh. Whatever. IMO, it's absurd that these guys (recruiters, etc.) are "disallowed" by their command from being equipped to defend themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stealthyeliminator View Post
    *facepalm*

    So, he gets a "God bless you" after a ND, can you imagine what an "open carry advocate" would get if they had an ND? Somehow I think the reaction would be significantly different.

    Meh. Whatever. IMO, it's absurd that these guys (recruiters, etc.) are "disallowed" by their command from being equipped to defend themselves.
    He also has his rifle stolen and charges filed.
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    More is the shame. It is not the NDer's first such incident.
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...hot-fired.html
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    The definition of blasé

    From the Columbus Times Dispatch:

    "Reed was convicted of the same offense in 2013, and was fined $50, court records show.
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    “I’m nobody special,” Reed said in a telephone interview on Thursday. “I’m just a guy doing my job because my own government wouldn’t do it.”

    Reed said he is not a military veteran. He described himself as an active gun enthusiast who makes a living working side jobs.

    He downplayed what happened. “It is what it is,” he said. “Nobody got hurt.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    From the Columbus Times Dispatch:

    "Reed was convicted of the same offense in 2013, and was fined $50, court records show.
    [...]
    “I’m nobody special,” Reed said in a telephone interview on Thursday. “I’m just a guy doing my job because my own government wouldn’t do it.”

    Reed said he is not a military veteran. He described himself as an active gun enthusiast who makes a living working side jobs.

    He downplayed what happened. “It is what it is,” he said. “Nobody got hurt.”
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    More is the shame. It is not the NDer's first such incident.
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...hot-fired.html
    Wow. Strikes me as someone that doesn't learn from their mistakes very well. "Whatever cause no one got hurt" is most certainly not the right reaction to a negligent discharge...

    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    He also has his rifle stolen and charges filed.
    True..
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    I think he also deserves this one too...

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    Sounds like a sales opportunity for an NRA gun safety instructor.
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    come on citizen, those instructors can fix someone stuck on permanent stupid...

    i am sure some recruitment commander is phreaked out now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by solus View Post
    SNIP come on citizen, those instructors can fix someone stuck on permanent stupid...
    <chuckle> Good point.

    I wonder, however, if they can help someone overcome making typo's.
    Last edited by Citizen; 07-24-2015 at 02:09 PM.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Although I do not discourage or disparage LGOC, one reason I chose not to is the constant handling of the firearm.
    As a personal limitation I feel that if I carried a LG while doing ordinary life stuff it may be possible for my finger to find the trigger while distracted with other things. I much prefer a firearm holstered and forgotten until needed and LG waiting patiently in the truck/backseat etc if it's needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    More is the shame. It is not the NDer's first such incident.
    http://www.dispatch.com/content/stor...hot-fired.html
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