When is a weapon not a weapon?

mnrobitaille · Jul 29, 2015

Been thinking about this some time now, & when businesses post signs saying "no weapons/weapons free" does that mean they are not wanting any patrons?

The definition of a weapon is: a device which can cause bodily harm/injury. Does that mean no keys allowed as keys can be used as a weapon? A cane, walker, or crutches can be used as a weapon. A woman's handbag can be used as a weapon.......

Anything & everything can be used as a weapon, so why have the signage banning weapons, when everyone is carrying a weapon?

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golddigger14s · Jul 29, 2015

Nothing is a weapon until it is used as one. A hammer is a tool to pound in nails to build a house. A hammer is a weapon when a person bashes in another persons skull in anger.

Dave_pro2a · Jul 30, 2015

TSA rules allow 6" tools onto planes.

Phillips screwdriver.

Difdi · Aug 2, 2015

mnrobitaille said:
Been thinking about this some time now, & when businesses post signs saying "no weapons/weapons free" does that mean they are not wanting any patrons?

The definition of a weapon is: a device which can cause bodily harm/injury. Does that mean no keys allowed as keys can be used as a weapon? A cane, walker, or crutches can be used as a weapon. A woman's handbag can be used as a weapon.......

Anything & everything can be used as a weapon, so why have the signage banning weapons, when everyone is carrying a weapon?

Bare hands/fists are weapons. It would be more accurate for them to post a 'no customers allowed' sign.

mnrobitaille · Aug 5, 2015

In light of the shooting of the mentally disturbing gentleman getting shot here in February, the question of what constitutes a weapon was posted to a letter to the editor in the Tri-City Herald.

Is a rock a deadly weapon?

mnrobitaille · Aug 5, 2015

golddigger14s said:
Nothing is a weapon until it is used as one. A hammer is a tool to pound in nails to build a house. A hammer is a weapon when a person bashes in another persons skull in anger.

By that line of thinking, a firearm/sidearm is a tool, if it's sitting in a holster. A firearm/sidearm is only a weapon when removed from the holster/brandished to instill fear, or removed from holster to be fired at a person or animal.

Grapeshot · Aug 5, 2015

Dave_pro2a said:
TSA rules allow 6" tools onto planes.

--snipped--

I saw what you did there. :uhoh:

No I don't think it merits further discussion.

golddigger14s · Aug 5, 2015

What about black powder? You can buy a BP pistol/rifle with out a BGC.

stealthyeliminator · Aug 5, 2015

They probably mean "no tools designed to be used as weapons" or "devices constructed for the purpose of being useful as a weapon" or even "a tool or device that is especially adaptable for use as a weapon"

skidmark · Aug 5, 2015

golddigger14s said:
Nothing is a weapon until it is used as one. A hammer is a tool to pound in nails to build a house. A hammer is a weapon when a person bashes in another persons skull in anger.

But what if I use a hammer to bash in someone's skull while remaining calm and serene? Or joyful?

Seriously, you put a chain out there I'm gonna yank on it.

stay safe.

sudden valley gunner · Aug 5, 2015

Some tools are designed as weapons hence will always be.
Some tools are designed for other uses and are only weapons when used as one against its intended design.

Difdi · Aug 5, 2015

mnrobitaille said:
By that line of thinking, a firearm/sidearm is a tool, if it's sitting in a holster. A firearm/sidearm is only a weapon when removed from the holster/brandished to instill fear, or removed from holster to be fired at a person or animal.

I recall an old Far Side strip, with a gunfighter looking to duel someone known for being handy with a gun...and there's the guy on his roof, holding his gun by the barrel, using it to pound nails.

golddigger14s · Aug 5, 2015

Guns used as intended are tools designed to provide food, or prevent your own untimely death.

When is a weapon not a weapon?

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