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    Milwaukee man dies after accidentally shooting himself in leg while 'posing'

    "[Tim] Phonisay was apparently posing with his gun and it discharged when he went to holster it, firing a round into his right groin and striking the femoral artery, according to the medical examiner's report.

    Phonisay purchased the Springfield .45-caliber handgun three months ago and had a concealed carry permit,..."

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwauk...322524181.html

    The femoral artery is anterior-medial of the thigh, in the femoral triangle. He wasn't wearing his holster at three o'clock.
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    Something I think about all the time. I don't like belting on my holster with the pistol in it so I (admittedly adding risk to myself) holster it after the fact. I do it deliberately and carefully with incidents like this in mind.
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    Finger on trigger?
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    no..but mind on what I'm doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twoskinsonemanns View Post
    no..but mind on what I'm doing.
    Sorry, I didn't mean you, it was a thought about the deceased.
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    ah. A good question. I personally worry more about the less common things. Like the shirt getting bunched up and caught or something weird like that. My EDC would feel alien if I didn't have my trigger finger right on the slide release axle when holding it.
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    He well not make that mistake again.

    One needs to always be aware.

    And it wasn't even a Glock
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    LOL As of spelling, always be aware!
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    Why didn't he have the safety engaged? Forgot, maybe?

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    Who was his Concealed Weapon License instructor? All of these errors should have been covered.
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    This sort of thing indirectly contributed to my preference for handguns with hammers.

    In one of his books, Mas Ayoob recommended putting your thumb on the hammer when holstering. If something snags the trigger, you will feel the hammer moving. I guess this was written before striker-fired pistols became so common. In any event, after reading that, I found myself shying away from handguns lacking hammers.
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    Now if he was Mexican carrying he might still be alive but might not want to be....accidents/momentary negligence can happen which is why it pays to remain aware of what the heck you are doing.

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    A 22-year-old Milwaukee man...

    ...after 11 p.m. Thursday...

    http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwauk...322524181.html
    Hmm...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Who was his Concealed Weapon License instructor? All of these errors should have been covered.
    What makes you assume it wasn't? And even if it wasn't, the training in the proper handling of the firearm is not the Concealed Carry Instructor's responsibility, though it is a part of any thorough instructor's full curriculum.

    https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/doc...s/175.60(21)(d)

    A person providing a firearms training course in good faith is immune from liability arising from any act or omission related to the course if the course is one described in sub. (4) (a).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    This sort of thing indirectly contributed to my preference for handguns with hammers.

    In one of his books, Mas Ayoob recommended putting your thumb on the hammer when holstering. If something snags the trigger, you will feel the hammer moving. I guess this was written before striker-fired pistols became so common. In any event, after reading that, I found myself shying away from handguns lacking hammers.
    I, too, put my holster on my belt sans pistol, then holster the pistol after I get the leather comfortable. With my 1911 I made it a habit to check the thumb safety then thumb the hammer as I holster. It's especially important to not even grip the pistol with your index finger in my opinion. I don't even use my index finger when holstering, especially with my Glock. Thumb, middle, ring, and pinky with index at about a 45 degree angle from the slide just to make sure nothing ever touches the bang switch. That's the only way to err on the side of caution.
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