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    The importance of retention

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    The importance of *situational awareness.
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    As I have always said with GFZ that allow some special people to carry ... hey, you are allowing guns to be available as one could simply clunk the "special person" over the head and take his gun when he is dreaming.

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    It looks like the NGO security guard was using something less than a Level MMCCCXLVIIII retention holster.

    There's a part of me that is hoping he sues his employer for negligence for issuing him with defective/inadequate equipment.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    It looks like the NGO security guard was using something less than a Level MMCCCXLVIIII retention holster.

    There's a part of me that is hoping he sues his employer for negligence for issuing him with defective/inadequate equipment.

    stay safe.
    A lot of times it's up to the employee to provide for their own equipment when it comes to being armed security, but then different employers have different regulations/policies are to what they do or do not provide.

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    After the guard woke the transient up, a confrontation ensued.
    Wake me up and see what happens.

    I have level three retention when sliding into second base.

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    Quote Originally Posted by color of law View Post
    Wake me up and see what happens.
    A very good point. NCOs don't make physical contact when waking up trained soldiers in the barracks as a general rule for this very reason. Some people come awake fighting, and they can sometimes go for extended periods of time (more than just a few seconds) in that autopilot state.

    There are quite a few vets with PTSD that wind up homeless, so the chances that the sleeping transient is trained to kill and will wake up on autopilot are disturbingly high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Truth View Post
    The importance of *situational awareness.
    SA was not a part of this equation. The guard rousted the transient and mixed it up. Too close.....too dumb.
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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