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    McAuliffe pushes background checks - says there are booths at gunshows

    that state no background check needed.

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepa...rally-n2050557

    Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe spoke at the event and brought his armed body guard with him.
    ....
    A few things. First off, McAuliffe's claim that people "can be armed"1 while we were standing on the Capitol grounds in Washington D.C. is false. It is nearly impossible for law abiding civilians to be legally armed in Washington D.C. and it is illegal for them to be armed at the Capitol (even if they go "through a background check" as McAuliffe advises). Second, during his speech at the event McAuliffe claimed that booths at gun shows openly advertise with signs that say "no background check." When I asked which gun show he was referring to, he couldn't give a specific answer. And finally, McAuliffe implied during his speech that background checks are non-existent in Virginia, when in fact firearms purchases not only require two forms of identification, but lengthy ATF paperwork and a background check with the FBI2.
    1 - So is McAuliffe saying that the Second Amendment actually means what it says?

    2 - Seems McAuliffe might have gotten part of this one right without even knowing it. We Virginians have to go through a background check run by the State Police, not by the FBI. But yes, we not only complete the lengthy ATF paperwork, we have to complete the almost-as-lengthy State Police paperwork too.

    This BS spouted by McAuliffe should not be countered with facts. We have done that for decades and it still gets us nowhere. We need to call him out for telling lies - see how he likes having to deal with SJW tactics that are applied to him.

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    Liberals are not deterred by facts, nor being called a liar...cuz liberals know the truth about they being liars. Swaying liberals, even liberals with a gun = .

    YMMV
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Liberals are not deterred by facts, nor being called a liar...cuz liberals know the truth about they being liars. Swaying liberals, even liberals with a gun = .

    YMMV
    The point of calling them on their lies is not really to get them to change their ways, although it may tie them up in "defending" their statements.

    Doing so is directed at the "undecided"s - those that are not sure which side of the fence they are on. Pulling back the curtain sometimes makes it impossible to continue ignoring the person standing there pulling all the different levers. See for example http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/ind...r-gun-control/

    Nobody who is undecided is likely to read that blog, but there are those that refer to it and post links to articles like that in places where the undecided do hang out.

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    The point of calling them on their lies is not really to get them to change their ways, although it may tie them up in "defending" their statements.

    Doing so is directed at the "undecided"s - those that are not sure which side of the fence they are on. Pulling back the curtain sometimes makes it impossible to continue ignoring the person standing there pulling all the different levers. See for example http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/ind...r-gun-control/

    Nobody who is undecided is likely to read that blog, but there are those that refer to it and post links to articles like that in places where the undecided do hang out.

    stay safe.
    What makes you think the undecided are interested if challenging the liberals and their lies.

    I focuis on what argument to use that gets a undecided citizen to become invested in deciding...and hopefully deciding to restore liberty. I won't give liberals the time of day...respectfully of course.
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    What makes you think the undecided are interested if challenging the liberals and their lies.

    I focuis on what argument to use that gets a undecided citizen to become invested in deciding...and hopefully deciding to restore liberty. I won't give liberals the time of day...respectfully of course.
    :shakes head sadly:

    stay safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    :shakes head sadly:

    stay safe.
    Ya want a hankie?
    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson.

    "Better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent suffer" - English jurist William Blackstone.
    It is AFAIK original to me. Compromise is failure on the installment plan, particularly when dealing with so intractable an opponent as ignorance. - Nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    Ya want a hankie?
    It was more like this -

    http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...psfc335843.gif

    No hankie needed.

    stay safe.
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    Because stupidity isn't a race, and everybody can win.

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