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on threats and deadly force

Citizen

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SNIP I am reading the page of the lewis county sheriff's office on deadly force, which says

Q: What if someone uses threatening language to me so that I am afraid for my life or safety?
A: Verbal threats are not enough to justify the use of deadly force. There must be an overt act by the person which indicates that he immediately intends to carry out the threat

at http://lewiscountywa.gov/information-on-use-of-deadly-force

Sooo, now the Lewis Co. Sheriff's office is giving legal advice? Interpreting the law? Verrry interesting.
 

MAC702

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...if and when a guy says, Your money or your life, wouldn't that justify the use of preemptive deadly force?...

It's hard to imagine someone saying that without displaying some means to carry out the threat.
 

rightwinglibertarian

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In that case, has their even been a case in WA were a police officer went on the offensive against a citizen and the citizen fired back and did not get charged for assault?

I don't know but the officer in the video made a clear and obvious threat to kill, which in my mind is more than enough reason to draw and fire a weapon. The uniform is irrelevant.
 

sudden valley gunner

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The sheriff in the OP cracks me up.

First tells others they must gain knowledge and no the law and then almost immediately says something wrong. Firearms are not prohibited in all government buildings.
 

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I know of several cases that single punch lead to death or great bodily harm.

Here's a interesting read on the subject.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/12/a-punch-to-head-is-potential-deadly.html

If you watch television and the movies, you might get the impression that a punch to the head is no big deal. That is not true. A punch to the head is a very serious attack. It can disable. It can maim. It can kill. The head is a vulnerable target, which is why an attacker aims for it. I first became aware of the deadly potential of one punch to the head in the 1970's, from a long forgotten news story. Later, the son of a close friend killed a man with one punch. He was eventually found not guilty of manslaughter, but only after a long and expensive legal fight.

Rest of the story at the link

some more related articles

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/04/wv-case-illustrates-how-fisticuffs.html

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2014/12/wa-example-of-one-punch-homicide.html

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/01/fl-judge-rules-fists-are-deadly-threat.html

In the example Seriona gave that I responded to do you think you and your lawyer could convince a jury and or judge that you were in fear of great bodily harm or death?
 

Citizen

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The sheriff in the OP cracks me up.

First tells others they must gain knowledge and no the law and then almost immediately says something wrong. Firearms are not prohibited in all government buildings.

Oh, I almost always "no" the law. Positive law vs natural law, malum prohibitum, and all that.

:D
 
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