Alarmed, with good reason! Senator Green's Senate Bill 442 criminalizes Open Carry

Michigander · Oct 13, 2015

Here is a link we've posted here before with a bunch of pre written letters you can send your reps. If you guys haven't hounded them yet now is the time. http://michigancarries.org/2015/07/senator-mike-green-and-nra-backed-mcrgo-propose-partial-oc-ban/

Michigander · Oct 13, 2015

1245, mcrgo was founded by grassroots activists who got shall issue passed. Collectivists then took hold, people got pissed, and mgo happened. We started moc actually after that, when interestingly mcrgo hadalready bashed open carry so we knew we were on our own. Then of course in 2012 when moc was temporarily in bed with Mike Green and mcrgo for an oc ban with much drama, that was when myself and others more or less kind of ran out of uses for moc and set out to rebuild a new activism effort immune to the old problems we now have perfect hindsight on.

Master Control · Oct 13, 2015

Grapeshot · Oct 13, 2015

1245A Defender said:
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This thread is written in the Michigan sub forum,
about Machigan,
for michigan!!

but you just keep poking your unknowing nose into their business..

For shame and not a little bit insulting. That surprises me.

Apparently, it is your opinion that only some people should be able to post and understand what is going on here.

BTW - all of OCDO is my business and all of OCDO is available to all member/users.

Patience with others and cordiality (not insulting them) would be a good thing.

OC4me · Oct 13, 2015

As the OP, the point of this thread was to rally everyone to CALL and EMAIL Senator Green's office. Please do so, thank you all!

Be polite and courteous but firm ;-)

Suggest that a clean bill simply repealing PFZs would be better than the convoluted mess that SB 442 is. Honestly, I don't know why politicians can't sponsor clean bills. A simple "PFZs are hereby repealed" is all it takes. SB 442 doesn't actually repeal PFZs at all, but simply adds an exemption for enhanced CPL holders while criminalizing open carry which is now perfectly legal.

fozzy71 · Oct 13, 2015

OC4me said:
As the OP, the point of this thread was to rally everyone to CALL and EMAIL Senator Green's office. Please do so, thank you all!

Be polite and courteous but firm ;-)

Suggest that a clean bill simply repealing PFZs would be better than the convoluted mess that SB 442 is. Honestly, I don't know why politicians can't sponsor clean bills. A simple "PFZs are hereby repealed" is all it takes. SB 442 doesn't actually repeal PFZs at all, but simply adds an exemption for enhanced CPL holders while criminalizing open carry which is now perfectly legal.

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xmanhockey7 · Oct 13, 2015

442 in its current form is poorly written. MCRGO is saying there will be improvements made to it. I'm anxious to see the changes. I think it can still be a good bill, but not in current form.

fozzy71 · Oct 13, 2015

^here are your 'improvements' :cuss:

from moc/mgo FB feed.......

Michigan Open Carry, Inc
44 mins ·
*** URGENT UPDATE - SB 442 Just Got Way Worse ***
Senator Meekhof introduced SB 561 this morning as a companion to Senator Green's SB 442. The changes will move the Open Carry ban from 28.425o to a requirement that the pistol be concealed in order to receive the exemption in 750.234d.
This is done with NO protection for accidental display or printing.
More importantly and egregiously if you mess up, even accidentally, the punishment will be a 90 DAY MISDEMEANOR that comes with a 8 YEAR DISQUALIFICATION from having a CPL.
Saying goodbye to your CPL for 8 years for a simple mistake is not "pro-gun".

solus · Oct 13, 2015

wow...ruffled feathers and rankled egos abound as all the protectors of MI's 2A efforts are showing up for the fracas on OCDO...nice...

ipse

OC4me · Oct 13, 2015

1245A Defender said:
MOC "the poster of this thread" and MGO both hate this bad law.

Just for the record, MOC had nothing to do with this thread. I cited them as a source, which I relied upon regarding the negative issues with SB 442. I am solely responsible for posting this thread as the OP.

Alarmed, with good reason! Senator Green's Senate Bill 442 criminalizes Open Carry

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