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    Amish man sues to buy firearm without photo ID

    Amish man sues to buy firearm without photo ID in gun rights, religious freedom lawsuit

    Lately, Americans have argued both about their right to bear arms and whether the free exercise of religion allows businesses and state officials to claim exemptions from requirements that conflict with their religious beliefs. It’s not everyday, however, that the two issues, guns and religion, wind up together in a single case.

    In a suit that brings together the Second Amendment and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA), an Amish man filed a federal lawsuit in Pennsylvania last week because he wants to buy a gun without the required photo ID — and because getting that photo ID would violate his religious beliefs.

    Andrew Hertzler, according to the suit, is from Lancaster County, Pa., and is an “active and practicing” member of the community; his “parents, grandparents, and siblings are all active and practicing Amish”; and he “has a sincerely held religious belief that prevents him from knowingly and willingly having his photograph taken and stored.”..."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...eedom-lawsuit/

    http://tinyurl.com/nh8p9rs

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    Last edited by Nightmare; 10-28-2015 at 01:22 PM.
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    Well, at least he's not trying to vote.

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    No ID...how would you know if he votes?
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    An interesting problem. What about gun shows in the state?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OC for ME View Post
    No ID...how would you know if he votes?
    How would he vote without an ID?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    How would he vote without an ID?
    Repeatedly, even after death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Repeatedly, even after death.
    haha. It's actually not funny because it's true... :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughntx View Post
    haha. It's actually not funny because it's true... :/
    Even more so in Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hughntx View Post
    haha. It's actually not funny because it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beebobby View Post
    How would he vote without an ID?
    Used to be you just signed the sheet and they would chk the sig.

    I don't know how many states still do this. An ID should never be required....have not looked into the mandatory nature of an ID needed....I need to, I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Repeatedly, even after death.
    In Chicago.

    Bury me in Chicago. I want to remain active in politics after I die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by utbagpiper View Post
    In Chicago.

    Bury me in Chicago. I want to remain active in politics after I die.
    That's in Crook County ya know.

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