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armed men protecting homeless camp in Vancouver

skidmark

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Notwithstanding the lack of a permanent address would it be possible for someone living in a homeless camp / shelter to purchase a firearm for personal self defense? My question is specific to Washington State due to the passage of I-594.

I know there are some FFL "dealers" here, how would you handle the 4473 form in the case of a homeless person attempting to purchase a firearm?

I am basically asserting, the government is in fact preventing citizens in this situation from exercising the right to arms simply because they do not have permanent residence.

I also acknowledge it is possible to acquire firearms legally without a government permission slip, it seems unlikely in the case of this woman and many others in the same situation.


~Whitney

There is a difference between being homeless and not having a permanent address, let alone a place of residence. Many times the permanent address is different from the place of residence. What does the 4473 ask for?

Most of the answers are state-specific and tied to issues of voter registration.

stay safe.
 

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presumptuous perhaps

There is a difference between being homeless and not having a permanent address, let alone a place of residence. Many times the permanent address is different from the place of residence. What does the 4473 ask for?

Most of the answers are state-specific and tied to issues of voter registration.

stay safe.



I did not consider the difference you pointed out, it was presumptuous on my part.


Do folks in this particular scenario have a "Current Residence Address"?
I presumed the answer to that question was no.

Block 2 of the form is where my beef is directed.

LINK to 4473 : https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

2. Current Residence Address (U.S. Postal abbreviations are acceptable. Cannot be a post office box.



~Whitney
 
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skidmark

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I did not consider the difference you pointed out, it was presumptuous on my part.


Do folks in this particular scenario have a "Current Residence Address"?
I presumed the answer to that question was no.

Block 2 of the form is where my beef is directed.

LINK to 4473 : https://www.atf.gov/file/61446/download

2. Current Residence Address (U.S. Postal abbreviations are acceptable. Cannot be a post office box.



~Whitney

One of the shelters in town offers offers what is essentially a maildrop service but government agencies that demand a residence address seem willing to accept it. XXXXX, Apartment (A thru ZZZZZ) City Street, City, State, ZIP If you can use that to get your non-driving ID card and bring the envelope from the nice folks that run the SNAP program or your voter registration card with that address I don't see how a FFL or ATFEIEIO could reject it.

Do look up the legal difference berween "residence" and "domicile".

stay safe.
 
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