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    Is this bill something to worry about or just hype

    LRB3635 introduced by Lisa Subeck (D Madison) will ban all semi auto firearms in Wisconsin. I don't think this bill has a chance of passing, but it does tell me what the agenda of the anti 2A is if and when they get in power.

    http://legis.wisconsin.gov/assembly/...matic-weapons/

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    It would ban possession ex post facto. MOLON LABE from my cold dead hands would seem apt.
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    This ban does not apply to.... any law enforcement officer or armed forces or military personnel while on official duty, to a licensed importer or manufacturer of semiautomatic
    assault weapons, or to a firearms dealer who is authorized to sell semiautomatic assault weapons.


    Now we have winners and losers or first class and second class citizens. Besides what will semi auto deals do if we can't buy an 'assault' weapon. A semi auto handgun is an assault weapon. My friend carries 5-6 clips when he was on duty. So 10 rounds times 6 clips=60 rounds. Rep Stubeck needs to be challenged on this stupidity!

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    Only took a couple days for her to 'realize' she's an idiot:

    UPDATE:

    In response to the swift backlash against her proposed legislation, Representative Lisa Subeck (D-Madison) has acknowledged the bill goes too far.

    “After receiving feedback from some of our colleagues regarding the circulation of a preliminary draft banning semiautomatic assault weapons, the other authors of the bill and I have determined that we will work with the Legislative Reference Bureau to make some revisions to the draft bill to address some concerns that have been raised,” Subeck admitted via email.

    “While LRB 3635 was not intended to impair Wisconsin’s rich hunting heritage and those who annually participate in it, our state does need to have a serious and meaningful conversation about gun violence,” she wrote. “We will be working with the Legislative Reference Bureau, Legislative Council, and others to ensure that a future bill draft corrects any drafting errors and unintended oversights to ensure more consistency with our current hunting and sporting regulations.”
    http://bearingarms.com/wi-dems-proposed-gun-ban/

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    Hopefully the LRB will rub her nose in the State and National Constitutions after she has used them to potty her Shitzhu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notalawyer View Post
    Only took a couple days for her to 'realize' she's an idiot:

    http://bearingarms.com/wi-dems-proposed-gun-ban/
    The re-crafting of the bill has begun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    The re-crafting of the bill has begun.
    Ha! Drafting errors and unintended oversights.............

    I was the Treasurer for a church for a while. I POURED over any report I put out as I felt if there was ONE mistake in it, how could you be sure that ANY thing else was accurate .

    If I had only know about drafting errors and unintended oversights my job would have been so much simpler. I tend to think this might have been more of an INTENDED oversight, that blew up in her face.

    There was another post on this and discussed at some length, but I don't think we can beat up on her bad enough to get what she deserves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wstar425 View Post
    Ha! Drafting errors and unintended oversights. I was the Treasurer for a church for a while. I POURED over any report I put out as I felt if there was ONE mistake in it, how could you be sure that ANY thing else was accurate . If I had only know about drafting errors and unintended oversights my job would have been so much simpler. I tend to think this might have been more of an INTENDED oversight, that blew up in her face. There was another post on this and discussed at some length, but I don't think we can beat up on her bad enough to get what she deserves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Do you read so closely so critically here, or why not?
    No, numbers are numbers, disregarding Common Core.

    Words can mean several things and be taken to mean different things, especially without the benefit of hearing it in spoken form. Plus, I'm usually typing on a small screen on my phone. Extra Plus, here lately it seems like there are lots of people on this site just looking for nits to pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wstar425 View Post
    No, numbers are numbers, disregarding Common Core. Words can mean several things and be taken to mean different things, especially without the benefit of hearing it in spoken form. Plus, I'm usually typing on a small screen on my phone. Extra Plus, here lately it seems like there are lots of people on this site just looking for nits to pick. Have a good weekend!
    That's kind'a my point. Are drafting errors mere nits to pick, or is the imprecise written word just a nit?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    That's kind'a my point. Are drafting errors mere nits to pick, or is the imprecise written word just a nit?
    Your point is kind'a lost on me, sorry. No, to both your questions. If you disagree I'd like to hear your thoughts.

    Does a bill presented to the WI Legislature, a financial report presented to a local church finance committee, and a response to a post on a forum all require the same amount of proofreading and verification?
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    You should support the bill. Let it become law. Laws like this will soon be upon everyone. After the law is passed, fight it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wstar425 View Post
    Your point is kind'a lost on me, sorry. No, to both your questions. If you disagree I'd like to hear your thoughts.

    Does a bill presented to the WI Legislature, a financial report presented to a local church finance committee, and a response to a post on a forum all require the same amount of proofreading and verification?
    I wrote town ordinances while I was a town supervisor (board member), they were perfect in the format that I was required to use. In my career I wrote tens of thousands of pages or reactor plant test operating instructions and they were perfect or not approved. In college underclass seminar worth 18 hours per semester I wrote about 500 - 1000 pages of essay per month and the English/grammar tutor looved to slit his wrists over them.

    Accounting reports in this household are generated by an accounting program, including for the church, and they are perfect every time.

    I write here off the top of my head, but verify my recollections after the fact, and you are welcome to proofread my work and fact check it. I left Charleston, SC with an inch high stack of pro-gun activist letters to the editor, on the public editor's desk and unpublished, that were carefully written to be un-editable. A word or sentence edited out would be clearly obvious and nonsensical.

    I am responsible for my communication, but am very aware of the credibility of my critics. I haven't counted the entries on my ignore list, but it must be approaching a hundred -- critics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    I wrote town ordinances while I was a town supervisor (board member), they were perfect in the format that I was required to use. In my career I wrote tens of thousands of pages or reactor plant test operating instructions and they were perfect or not approved. In college underclass seminar worth 18 hours per semester I wrote about 500 - 1000 pages of essay per month and the English/grammar tutor looved to slit his wrists over them.

    Accounting reports in this household are generated by an accounting program, including for the church, and they are perfect every time.

    I write here off the top of my head, but verify my recollections after the fact, and you are welcome to proofread my work and fact check it. I left Charleston, SC with an inch high stack of pro-gun activist letters to the editor, on the public editor's desk and unpublished, that were carefully written to be un-editable. A word or sentence edited out would be clearly obvious and nonsensical.

    I am responsible for my communication, but am very aware of the credibility of my critics. I haven't counted the entries on my ignore list, but it must be approaching a hundred -- critics.
    So, is that a No?

    Or a yes?

    To be honest, I have no clue.

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