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    san bernardino active shooting event

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    https://news.google.com/news/rtc?ncl...M8m-lrNECgk0kM

    20 victims at a center for people with developmental disabilities even though SWAT was training nearby, suited up and "ready to roll!"

    All shootings are now with AK type or "other automatic" weapons.
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    Yep. Nice to see all those wonderful Kalifornia Soviet Socialist Republic anti gun laws and whatnot working out SO well.
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    2016 Democratic candidates push for gun control after San Bernardino shooting

    With authorities still in the process of responding to an active shooting that claimed multiple victims Wednesday afternoon in San Bernardino, California, presidential candidates are weighing in on the attack at the Inland Regional Center.

    Democratic White House hopefuls immediately took to Twitter to call for stricter measures controlling firearm access.

    In a tweet, Hillary Clinton urged immediate "action to stop gun violence": I refuse to accept this as normal. We must take action to stop gun violence now. -H https://t.co/SkKglwQycb — Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) December 2, 2015

    Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders noted that "mass shootings are becoming an almost-everyday occurrence" in the United States: Mass shootings are becoming an almost-everyday occurrence in this country. This sickening and senseless gun violence must stop. — Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) December 2, 2015

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    how do they perceive they lock down firearm control in one of the tightest controlled states we have

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    San Bernardino shooting live updates: Up to 14 dead, officials say; police searching

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...htmlstory.html

    Don't forget, Black Friday gun background checks break single-day record: FBIVox populi!
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    Why these shooting occur and why there is nothing to do to stop them ...

    We allow our unborn to be murdered, gov't refuses any kind of civilized religion to be practiced....what do you expect?

    But our RKBA is unaffected .... its still good.

    Unfortunately, I don't see the gov't or people honoring life as they should....

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    Still waiting for a mass shooting at a gun show. All those people in such a small area and firearms all around.

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    Train like you fight, fight like you train. Run, hide, flee.

    Employees, who undergo monthly training drills to prepare for active shooter situations, initially thought the incident was a drill, according to the Los Angeles Times. But when real bullets flew, several hid in closets, barricaded themselves in rooms or fled for their lives.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/02...nardino-calif/
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    someone, at the beginning stated the nice agencies were in a training event near by...but then never heard it again.

    also interesting to note...two suspects are deceased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Dead men tell no tales, controvert no lies.
    A M E N !!

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    Assault style clothing soon to be banned

    Chief Burguan said the two dead suspects were a man and a woman in “assault style clothing.”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...no-20-victims/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Chief Burguan said the two dead suspects were a man and a woman in “assault style clothing.”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...no-20-victims/
    Does this include assault style underwear?

    Looks like a girl got offended, left, got gang banger BF to go back and take 'em on.

    We'll never know.

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    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2453471

    A muslim....I can see why obummer is talking guns instead of his muslim brothers

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    Syed Farook, and Tashfeen Malik, devout Muslims. Terrorism a possibility

    The FBI was investigating multiple scenes, and the head of its Los Angeles field office said “it’s a possibility” that the massacre was a terrorist operation.

    San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan identified the two suspects slain by police in a chase as Syed Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27. At a press conference early Thursday, he said they were a couple, “either boyfriend, girlfriend; husband and wife.” The Los Angeles Times reported that they were a married couple, with a child.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...no-20-victims/

    San Bernardino Police Chief Jarrod Burguan said investigators had not determined a motive for the shooting, in which 17 people were wounded. But an official at the FBI, which is working with local agencies, said he could not rule out terrorism as a motive. "It is a possibility, but we don't know that yet, and we aren't willing to go down that road yet," said David Bowdich, assistant director in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office.
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    Farook was a U.S. citizen, born in Illinois, and a five-year employee of the government agency holding the holiday banquet. His co-workers said Farook, a Muslim, had traveled in recent years to the Middle East. Burguan said he could not rule out that a personal conflict led to the shooting. During the banquet, "there was some type of dispute," and Farook left the gathering angrily, the chief said, and he returned with his wife and they opened fire.

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    Guns used in San Bernardino shooting bought legally

    Federal authorities say that the two assault rifles and two handguns used in the San Bernardino massacre were all purchased legally in the United States — two of them by someone who’s now under investigation. Meredith Davis of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms & Explosives says investigators are now working to make a connection to the last legal purchaser.
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    She says all four guns were bought four years ago but she’s not saying whether they were purchased out of state or how and when they got into the hands of the two shooters. Davis says California requires paperwork when guns change hands privately but many other states don’t.

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    Worrying about the who, what and why of the guns has nothing to do with the shooting.

    We know who the shooters were.

    Worrying about the guns only has to do with pushing more control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    <snip> During the banquet, "there was some type of dispute," and Farook left the gathering angrily, the chief said, and he returned with his wife and they opened fire.

    http://graphics.latimes.com/san-bernardino-shooting/
    I don't think this is what Tammy meant ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U48VjCJkowE

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    Just posting this as I stumbled across it this morning. It seems there was an ARMED witness at a nearby business that observed the black SUV leaving after shots were fired. He did not intervene.

    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/loc...shooting_scene

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    Quote Originally Posted by adk_mechetech View Post
    Just posting this as I stumbled across it this morning. It seems there was an ARMED witness at a nearby business that observed the black SUV leaving after shots were fired. He did not intervene.
    Good. He had no right to as he was no longer in danger of grievous bodily harm, an element of defense of self.

    The risk of arming citizens against mass terrorism is of them being overwhelmed by the horror, their emotions and their need to do something active.

    The elements of common law defense of self are four; be innocent of instigation, be in danger of bodily harm, use sufficient force to deliver oneself only from harm, and attempt to withdraw. Your statutory requirements may be greater or lesser, not having qualified immunity a citizen cannot afford to be wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightmare View Post
    Good. He had no right to as he was no longer in danger of grievous bodily harm, an element of defense of self.

    The risk of arming citizens against mass terrorism is of them being overwhelmed by the horror, their emotions and their need to do something active.

    The elements of common law defense of self are four; be innocent of instigation, be in danger of bodily harm, use sufficient force to deliver oneself only from harm, and attempt to withdraw. Your statutory requirements may be greater or lesser, not having qualified immunity a citizen cannot afford to be wrong.
    Completely agree. He went towards trouble. Had he been inside the building at the time it would be a completely different situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adk_mechetech View Post
    Completely agree. He went towards trouble. Had he been inside the building at the time it would be a completely different situation.
    even in the thick of things, judicious confrontation can overwhelm 'johnny do gooder' as was shown in the recent situation in walmart where the CC'r confronted the bad guy to stop, yet missed the bad guy's wife who shot the CC'r, killing.

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    If you see someone carrying a long gun in an inappropriate location (like a holiday party), just be safe and open up on them before they open fire on you.

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