color of law
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100% agree....Don't see anything wrong with perimeter security, alarm systems and locks. Think that they all have a place in home security.
100% agree....Don't see anything wrong with perimeter security, alarm systems and locks. Think that they all have a place in home security.
Don't see anything wrong with perimeter security, alarm systems and locks. Think that they all have a place in home security.
Was only making an observation, not pointing a finger. Multiple levels/options was my point.Agree Grape. So do firearms.....LOL
I was referring to the advice that someone needed dogs and a fence IN LIEU OF the "better" or "OUR" option. All in all, any defense is better than no defense.
After all, this is a firearm site, not dockdogs.com.
I am in Fayetteville NC...inside the city limits...for now.
Yes, a legal guardian would be on the premises when he would carry.
Reason I wanted this is the garage is detached from the house. We have had an incident where a thief came up into the garage and attempted to steal my mountain bike. We believe my oldest son came home from school while the person was in the garage and he got spooked and left...did not take the bike....just some smaller trivial things. Anyway, I just do not want my 14 year old to get surprised like that.
I have no issue with him and guns....I just don't want a nosy neighbor or someone to call the law and have them role up on him.
A 14 y/o has not the right to self defense, on his own property, in NC?
Hmm...I'll have to reconsider any future interactions with/within NC.
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I am pro-police but if no crime is being committed (RAS/PC) on your property, then the police are not invited on said property. Your son can simply ask them to leave and come back when my parents/guardians are home. .
Ton, you are aware NC citizens may not use deadly force to protect property, to including pointing a firearm at someone (§ 14-34. Assaulting by pointing gun)?
please put that into your decision making.
ipse
Do folks in NC have the right to use reasonable force to get back property that was stolen? I don't think NC has citizens arrest, if I recall correctly...but if one can use force to reacquire stolen property, I don't know, hence the ?
NC is one of the few states that I know that uses notice pleading in civil cases v. fact based pleading. Its a plaintiff's paradise.
NC citizens have no citizens arrest ! we may detain and detain only. now the rub is you may not point a firearm at another citizen as it is considered as mentioned previously, assault by weapon. therefore, IMO you are at a loss to even detain someone.
the NC statutes from my perspective are vague on force to retrieve stolen property...i believe you need a nice LE to assist.
for trespass, NC citizens must use words first then escalate stopping at deadly force. also remember, if deadly force is used, you must not be the instigator.
ipse
(b) The lawful occupant of a home, motor vehicle, or workplace is presumed to have held a reasonable fear of imminent death or serious bodily harm to himself or herself or another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or serious bodily harm to another if both of the following apply:(1) The person against whom the defensive force was used was in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering, or had unlawfully and forcibly entered, a home, motor vehicle, or workplace, or if that person had removed or was attempting to remove another against that person's will from the home, motor vehicle, or workplace.(2) The person who uses defensive force knew or had reason to believe that an unlawful and forcible entry or unlawful and forcible act was occurring or had occurred.
carolina, et al., sorry, but while the 14-51.x states , while in your home, motorhome, or work you may of course stand your ground...
however, as espoused previously, unless there is a clear and present danger to those occupants i hold dear of those areas while i am on site, i will not preside over being judge, jury, and executor for a misdemeanor (14-159.x ~ trespass) ; felon (14-51.x ~ housebreakings) .
just difference perspective...
and trespass on land...my advice stands...
ipse
Another state I have no desire to live in.
East of the Mississippi it seems that Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia are the best pro-gun states to live in.Appreciate that.Originally Posted by color of law View Post
Another state I have no desire to live in.
East of the Mississippi it seems that Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia are the best pro-gun states to live in.
East of the Mississippi it seems that Ohio, Kentucky and Virginia are the best pro-gun states to live in.
OHIO best pro gun state...really...P L E Z Z Z Z Z Z...
sure glad the biased speaking one's opinion is still protected by some amendment somewhere...
(shaking my head as i leave)
ipse
case in point...OC and go climb into your vehicle w/o your handy state issued privilege card.
(as i ease into my NC registered vehicle while OC'g not needing any state issued privilege card whatsoever!!)
OHIO best pro gun state...really...P L E Z Z Z Z Z Z...
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case in point...OC and go climb into your vehicle w/o your handy state issued privilege card.
(as i ease into my NC registered vehicle while OC'g not needing any state issued privilege card whatsoever!!)