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    Hey everyone. Just found this site and signed up still trying to figure everything out. My name is Phil I'm 26 from Ohio and have 3 little girls. The world is becoming a more crazy place as I'm sure you know so I'm extra precautious with my girl's and want to keep them safe. Anyway I don't have my CCW and was wondering if I can carry a loaded magazine locked in my glove box with the firearm in the rear of the vehicle in it's case? I've looked up the revised code and their wording is confusing. If anyone can help I would appreciate it thanks.

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    Like most firearms related questions, yours is specific to the laws of Ohio. PM the moderator and ask your post be moved to the Ohio sub-forum. Welcome to OCDO and to responsible parenting.
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    Or, you might try handgunlaw.us and click on Ohio on the map...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Wood View Post
    Anyway I don't have my CCW and was wondering if I can carry a loaded magazine locked in my glove box with the firearm in the rear of the vehicle in it's case?
    What does "in the rear of the vehicle" mean?????

    The first thing you must learn is words mean something. Vagueness will get you in trouble every time.

    2923.16 Improperly handling firearms in a motor vehicle.

    (A) No person shall knowingly discharge a firearm while in or on a motor vehicle.

    (B) No person shall knowingly transport or have a loaded firearm in a motor vehicle in such a manner that the firearm is accessible to the operator or any passenger without leaving the vehicle.

    (C) No person shall knowingly transport or have a firearm in a motor vehicle, unless the person may lawfully possess that firearm under applicable law of this state or the United States, the firearm is unloaded, and the firearm is carried in one of the following ways:

    (1) In a closed package, box, or case;

    (2) In a compartment that can be reached only by leaving the vehicle;

    (3) In plain sight and secured in a rack or holder made for the purpose;

    (4) If the firearm is at least twenty-four inches in overall length as measured from the muzzle to the part of the stock furthest from the muzzle and if the barrel is at least eighteen inches in length, either in plain sight with the action open or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or which cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.......
    I don't mean to be smart, but what part do you not understand?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Wood View Post
    Anyway I don't have my CCW and was wondering if I can carry a loaded magazine locked in my glove box with the firearm in the rear of the vehicle in it's case?
    Without a concealed handgun license, you cannot have a loaded firearm in your vehicle. Ohio's definition of "unloaded" can be a bit confusing at first. From ORC 2923.16 Secion (K) (5) (a):
    (a) "Unloaded" means

    , with respect to a firearm other than a firearm described in division (K)(6) of this section, that no ammunition is in the firearm in question, no magazine or speed loader containing ammunition is inserted into the firearm in question , and one of the following applies:

    (i) There is no ammunition in a magazine or speed loader that is in the vehicle in question and that may be used with the firearm in question.

    (ii) Any magazine or speed loader that contains ammunition and that may be used with the firearm in question is stored in a compartment within the vehicle in question that cannot be accessed without leaving the vehicle or is stored in a container that provides complete and separate enclosure.

    (b) For the purposes of division (K)(5)(a)(ii) of this section, a "container that provides complete and separate enclosure" includes, but is not limited to, any of the following:

    (i) A package, box, or case with multiple compartments, as long as the loaded magazine or speed loader and the firearm in question either are in separate compartments within the package, box, or case, or, if they are in the same compartment, the magazine or speed loader is contained within a separate enclosure in that compartment that does not contain the firearm and that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents or the firearm is contained within a separate enclosure of that nature in that compartment that does not contain the magazine or speed loader;

    (ii) A pocket or other enclosure on the person of the person in question that closes using a snap, button, buckle, zipper, hook and loop closing mechanism, or other fastener that must be opened to access the contents.
    So, you could have the gun in the center console and a loaded magazine in the glove box, as long as both provide "complete and separate enclosure" - that is, they both close with some kind of fastener. My personal favorite is that you can put the gun in the center section of a range bag and loaded magazines in the outside pockets, as long as both close with a fastener of some kind and completely and separately enclose the gun and magazines. You could then set the range bag in the front seat beside you... Even more fun, the gun could be in the glove compartment and the loaded magazines in a magazine pouch on your belt as long as you use the style of magazine pouch that completely encloses the magazine and closes with velcro or similar.
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