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Staunton High School teaching Islamic Calligraphy

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solus said:
as you can notice several folk stated this does not relate to OC/gun rights etc. no logical response was forth coming.

OC4ME...how is a local community high school considered a state institution let alone violating separation of church and state?

again, much todo about nothing...

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School districts must be confined to administrating the 3Rs not being allowed to pick and choose which rights, which portions of a right, can be exercised in their schools, and who may exercise the allowed rights.

Example:
RSMo 571.030. Unlawful use of weapons--exceptions--penalties.

1. A person commits the crime of unlawful use of weapons if he or she knowingly:

(10) Carries a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or any other weapon readily capable of lethal use into any school, onto any school bus, or onto the premises of any function or activity sponsored or sanctioned by school officials or the district school board; or

3. Subdivisions (1), (5), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section do not apply when the actor is transporting such weapons in a nonfunctioning state or in an unloaded state when ammunition is not readily accessible or when such weapons are not readily accessible. ... Subdivision (10) of subsection 1 of this section does not apply if the firearm is otherwise lawfully possessed by a person while traversing school premises for the purposes of transporting a student to or from school, or possessed by an adult for the purposes of facilitation of a school-sanctioned firearm-related event or club event.

4. Subdivisions (1), (8), and (10) of subsection 1 of this section shall not apply to any person who has a valid concealed carry permit issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121, a valid concealed carry endorsement issued before August 28, 2013, or a valid permit or endorsement to carry concealed firearms issued by another state or political subdivision of another state.
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Then there is this.

RSMo 571.107. Permit does not authorize concealed firearms, where--penalty for violation.

1. A concealed carry permit issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121, a valid concealed carry endorsement issued prior to August 28, 2013, or a concealed carry endorsement or permit issued by another state or political subdivision of another state shall authorize the person in whose name the permit or endorsement is issued to carry concealed firearms on or about his or her person or vehicle throughout the state.

No concealed carry permit issued pursuant to sections 571.101 to 571.121, valid concealed carry endorsement issued prior to August 28, 2013, or a concealed carry endorsement or permit issued by another state or political subdivision of another state shall authorize any person to carry concealed firearms into:

(10) Any higher education institution or elementary or secondary school facility without the consent of the governing body of the higher education institution or a school official or the district school board, unless the person with the concealed carry endorsement or permit is a teacher or administrator of an elementary or secondary school who has been designated by his or her school district as a school protection officer and is carrying a firearm in a school within that district, in which case no consent is required. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises of any higher education institution or elementary or secondary school facility shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises;
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Maybe you are right, maybe it is just me that makes a connection to the infringement/selective exercising of rights by a school district. We have a effort underway, here in MO, to remove the higher education component in this law and allow carry on college campi.

The laws certainly does contradict each other.
 
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solus said:
as you can notice several folk stated this does not relate to OC/gun rights etc. no logical response was forth coming.

OC4ME...how is a local community high school considered a state institution let alone violating separation of church and state?

again, much todo about nothing...

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Move it the Social Lounge - if folks in US (R) Rep Goodlatte's district, the guy that was leading the charge to revamp immigration laws, are okay w this - enjoy. Youse guys in the rest of Old Dominion enjoying demographics that have your new (D) Gov McAuliffe curbing your 2A rights - both in VA and 25 other states - carry on.


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Looks like this is common thread of teaching/study for world history and geography majors.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Islam-world-history-class.html#ixzz3ygln86ZH
Thank goodness British Press is picking up reporting load in the colonies.
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first, it is a news story of he said and she said...

second, i wonder why those of the Christian faith are so adverse to learning facets of another region's culture, including their religion?

article quote:
However, the school did send a statement to WTOP, clarifying the curriculum of their world history class.
'The particular unit in question is on the formation of Middle Eastern empires in which students learned the basic concepts of the Islamic faith and how it, along with politics, culture, economics and geography, contributed to the development of the Middle East,' the statement said.
'Other religions are introduced when they influence or impact a particular historical era or geographic region. For example, when reviewing the Renaissance and Reformation, students study the concepts and role of Christianity.
'When learning about the development of China and India, students examine Hinduism and Buddhism.' unquote

third, quote:
Renowned as a national nonprofit public interest law firm, based in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The mission of the Thomas More Law Center is to: Preserve America’s Judeo-Christian heritage; Defend the religious freedom of Christians; Restore time-honored moral and family values; Protect the sanctity of human life; Promote a strong national defense and a free and sovereign United States of America. unquote.

quote: “The Thomas More Law Center is on the forefront of fighting the Islamic cultural jihad attacking America. unquote

see # two above...

monetary gain for the thomas more law center is the principle reason for this he said she said debacle...

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