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    Aussie style "Buyback" bill intro'd to Congress

    http://thehill.com/regulation/263632...-buy-your-guns

    Hilldog said it, and by God, they're going to try, even if it will fail.

    http://payne.house.gov/sites/payne.h...ct_of_2015.pdf

    Can you imagine what will happen if she gets into office? We'll look back at the Obonehead administrations flurry of Executive BS and think it wasn't so bad after all!
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    As part of Payne's $360 million gun buyback initiative, the Justice Department would pay gun owners a premium of 25 percent more than the market value of their firearms...
    In return, the gun owners would receive a debit card they could use to purchase anything other than more guns and ammunition.
    from OP linked story

    I would use that money to pay my mortgage and then use my mortgage money to buy more guns and sell those and continue until I got $360 million, about $100 million in profit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    As part of Payne's $360 million gun buyback initiative, the Justice Department would pay gun owners a premium of 25 percent more than the market value of their firearms...
    In return, the gun owners would receive a debit card they could use to purchase anything other than more guns and ammunition.
    from OP linked story

    I would use that money to pay my mortgage and then use my mortgage money to buy more guns and sell those and continue until I got $360 million, about $100 million in profit.
    That's if you could buy more guns

    And who determines market value
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    That's if you could buy more guns

    And who determines market value
    I like the whole "black market" value idea. If they are illegal to buy then the only market would be the "black market"

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    The lack of research and critical thinking and blind hatred of freedom is astounding. Just a modicum of effort shows that these extreme Democrat/Bloombergian "gun control" policies that they admire in other countries is complete bunk. The most elementary historical analysis makes it obvious that "gun control" either increases violent crime or does nothing to stop it. Australia's "gun violence" rate has gone up since the mass shooting and subsequent change in laws. The UK had an even lower "gun violence" rate before they enacted "gun control". They had no "gun control" until 1920, and very little until the 60's. You can do the same exercise with any 1st world nation for which decent statistics are available. Joyce Lee Malcolm and others have papers on it. This shows that an extreme gun hater has a mental illness or a Hitlerian lust to rule others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    That's if you could buy more guns

    And who determines market value
    Not buy ... build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Not buy ... build.

    David your thinking is fine as long as they don't outlaw all that actively also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    [ ... ] the Justice Department would pay gun owners a premium of 25 percent more than the market value of their firearms... [ ... ]
    Someone has not been following Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005) and eminent domain. The Fifth Amendment requires just compensation for a taking. Until Kelo that meant market value, the valuation of a willing owner-seller. After Kelo, market value became whatever the government deemed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77zach View Post
    The lack of research and critical thinking and blind hatred of freedom is astounding. Just a modicum of effort shows that these extreme Democrat/Bloombergian "gun control" policies that they admire in other countries is complete bunk. The most elementary historical analysis makes it obvious that "gun control" either increases violent crime or does nothing to stop it. Australia's "gun violence" rate has gone up since the mass shooting and subsequent change in laws. The UK had an even lower "gun violence" rate before they enacted "gun control". They had no "gun control" until 1920, and very little until the 60's. You can do the same exercise with any 1st world nation for which decent statistics are available. Joyce Lee Malcolm and others have papers on it. This shows that an extreme gun hater has a mental illness or a Hitlerian lust to rule others.
    I like Joyce Lee Malcolm. In the late 1800's, almost every English gentleman carried a firearm. More so than anywhere in the "wild west" apparently. Crime in England at the time was almost non-existent. As more and more gun control laws were passed over the decades, they got more and more crime. Therefore, one can only assume that the right to keep and bear arms in England actually became a victim of its own success.
    To this day, people in the US think of England as the green and pleasant place with no crime. And people in the UK think there's bullets flying everywhere in the US constantly. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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    I wish that they would just pass a Katrina-style confiscation ... lets get this settled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I wish that they would just pass a Katrina-style confiscation ... lets get this settled.
    That would likely create an epidemic of acute lead poisoning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by qednick View Post
    I like Joyce Lee Malcolm. In the late 1800's, almost every English gentleman carried a firearm. More so than anywhere in the "wild west" apparently. Crime in England at the time was almost non-existent. As more and more gun control laws were passed over the decades, they got more and more crime. Therefore, one can only assume that the right to keep and bear arms in England actually became a victim of its own success.
    To this day, people in the US think of England as the green and pleasant place with no crime. And people in the UK think there's bullets flying everywhere in the US constantly. Nothing could be further from the truth.
    The violent crime rate per capita in the UK is 2.71 times the violent crime rate per capita here in the U.S.. It didn't used to be that way. Back before they banned the private ownership of firearms, it used to be on par with the crime rate here in the U.S.
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