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bloodstone1311 · Dec 22, 2015

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Citizen · Dec 22, 2015

bloodstone1311 said:
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In 1869-70 there was an agitation to prosecute the leaders of the Confederacy for Treason. Notice this was 4-5 years after the war.

A fella named Lysander Spooner, who was also an abolitionist, wrote of series of essays in 1870 called No Treason wherein he utterly destroyed the arguments of those calling for prosecution.

One of these days, I shall have to work out for myself whether an oath of office violated is treason or fraud. Or, both.

color of law · Dec 22, 2015

Citizen said:
In 1869-70 there was an agitation to prosecute the leaders of the Confederacy for Treason. Notice this was 4-5 years after the war.

A fella named Lysander Spooner, who was also an abolitionist, wrote of series of essays in 1870 called No Treason wherein he utterly destroyed the arguments of those calling for prosecution.

One of these days, I shall have to work out for myself whether an oath of office violated is treason or fraud. Or, both.

Either way, once the oath is intentionally violated they must be removed from office to never sit in a position of trust.

since9 · Dec 22, 2015

Citizen said:
In 1869-70 there was an agitation to prosecute the leaders of the Confederacy for Treason. Notice this was 4-5 years after the war.

A fella named Lysander Spooner, who was also an abolitionist, wrote of series of essays in 1870 called No Treason wherein he utterly destroyed the arguments of those calling for prosecution.

One of these days, I shall have to work out for myself whether an oath of office violated is treason or fraud. Or, both.

According to Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, it is most certain not treason, at least in and of itself.

As for whether or not it constitutes fraud, that depends on intent: "In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain." Without intent, the best thing one can say about those who fail to uphold their oaths of office is that they're stupid.

Lyndsy Simon · Dec 23, 2015

since9 said:
According to Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, it is most certain not treason, at least in and of itself.

As for whether or not it constitutes fraud, that depends on intent: "In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain." Without intent, the best thing one can say about those who fail to uphold their oaths of office is that they're stupid.

I do not recall signing that document, nor do I recall Mr. Spooner having done so.

Perhaps you should read his book.

OC for ME · Dec 23, 2015

since9 said:
According to Article III, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution, it is most certain not treason, at least in and of itself.

As for whether or not it constitutes fraud, that depends on intent: "In law, fraud is deliberate deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain." Without intent, the best thing one can say about those who fail to uphold their oaths of office is that they're stupid.

High crimes and misdemeanors...misdemeanors...hmm...

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